Let's Go To Court!

Wipe your slate clean of everything you *think* you know about the pet rock. You’ll marble (err, marvel) over its true history! Its inventor, Gary Dahl, thought he’d created a novelty gift that was set in stone. Imagine his surprise when the pet rock’s popularity began to crumble. Maybe he shouldn’t have taken it for granite? Ehh?? Get it?? In this episode, Kristin also addresses the often-asked question about whether she’s still friends with her former Let’s Go To Court co-host. Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Norm pulled from:  “Amazon.Com: Pet Rock - The Original by Gary Dahl : Pet Supplies.” Accessed July 10, 2025. https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Rock-Authentic-Approved-Original/dp/B07KN9FK4B Bredt, Ted. “Has Success Spoiled ‘pet Rock’ Potentate? Outside of 3 Houses, 4 Mercedes Benzes, and the Best Saloon in Los Gatos, No.” The Salt Lake Tribune, February 20, 1977. Coakley, Michael. “The Anatomy of a Fad: Pet Rock.” The Boston Globe, February 26, 1976. Curtin, A

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In this final episode of Let’s Go To Court, Kristin takes us full circle — with a con man.  In his hometown of Wellsville, New York, Paul Ceglia was known for his dishonesty. He always had a scheme going. He often got caught. In fact, he got caught in 2009 running a fraudulent business. But our pal Paul claims that it was in that dark moment, with the government coming after him, he discovered something incredible. While going through his old files, he found a contract that had been signed by an 18-year-old Mark Zuckerberg. According to that contract, Paul was the rightful owner to 84% of Facebook.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Facebook Face-off” episode of American Greed “Facebook fraud suspect on the lam; fam

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Bill Mowbray was *the* Cadillac dealer in Brownsville, Texas. His dealership spanned five acres. His financial success seemed undeniable. He had a massive home. He had two condos on the beach. He owned exotic birds. But beneath the surface, Bill struggled. He had a spending problem. He had multiple affairs. He struggled with suicidal ideation. So, when he died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot, investigators didn’t immediately question his wife, Freda Susie Mowbray. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Death of a Salesman” episode Accident Suicide or Murder “Where the Blood Drops” episode Forensic Files “Susie Mowbray: Stalled Heart” by Rebecca Reisner, forensicfilesnow.com “‘I Didn’t Do

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! On March 16, 1968, members of the United States Army carried out a mass murder against unarmed Vietnamese civilians. They killed 504 people. Two hundred and ten of the murder victims were under the age of 13. Afterward, military leadership did their best to cover up the massacre. They didn’t anticipate that a few brave people would tell the truth. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “My Lai” episode of American Experience “My Lai Massacre” by Douglas O. Linder for famous trials.com “My Lai Massacre,” entry on Britannica.com “The truth behind My Lai,” by Christopher J. Levesque for The New York Times “The Ghosts of My Lai,” by Shaun Raviv for Smithsonian Magazine YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Allen Roberts returned home, annoyed. A man named Sam Wagner had set up an appointment with him to talk about purchasing some land. Allen had gone out to meet Sam, but the man never showed. Now Allen found himself back home and, strangely, alone. His wife, Martha “Doe” Roberts was nowhere to be found. That was unlike her. She never left the house without at least writing a note.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Hold the Line” episode Hometown Homicide “A Tale of a Lethal Friendship and How It Led to A Cruel Murder” by The Mystique, Medium “Martha Doe Roberts” unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com “Husband vows to pay ransom for missing wife” Associate Press, The Tennessean “Neighborhood Watch: The

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Well folks, there’s no easy way to say this, so we’ll get right to it. In this episode, we announce that the podcast is coming to an end. Thank you all for being part of this community. The past six years have been absolutely wild. We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, we’ve… talked about buttholes. (Too often, perhaps??) Many of you have been part of this community for years. We appreciate your warmth, your support, and your willingness to cackle along with two very goofy grown women.  We’re blown away by how big this little indie podcast has become. We started with one microphone on a TV tray, and we’re ending on March 29 & 30th with two sold out live shows. What a way to go. We couldn’t have done it without you. As you can probably imagine, this decision wasn’t an easy one. We talk about it quite a bit on this episode. Arriving at this decision has been tough, but we know that it will free us up to do what we’re meant to do. For Brandi, that’

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Jason Young called his sister-in-law in a panic. He told her that he’d been looking on Ebay for a purse to buy for his wife Michelle. Like a dummy, he’d printed out a few of the purses he’d been eyeballing, and then he’d left the papers in the printer and gone out of town for a business trip. He worried that Michelle would spot the printouts and ruin the surprise. Jason’s sister-in-law, Meredith Fisher, agreed to help out. But when Meredith arrived at the home, she sensed that something was amiss. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Michelle Young” chillingcrimes.com “Silent Witness” episode Dateline “Michelle Young Murder: Husband Arrested Three Years After N.C. Mom's Death” ABC News “After

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Moriah “Mo” Wilson was a rising star in the world of professional cycling. One journalist said, “She had the potential to be one of the best racers, definitely in the country, and probably in the world.” Tragically, Mo’s life was cut short in a senseless murder. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: 48 Hours episode, “Capturing Moriah Wilson’s Killer” “A murder roils the cycling world,” by Ian Parker for The New Yorker “Kaitlin Armstrong’s former boyfriend testifies about their ‘tumultuous relationship during murder trial,” by Meghan Mariani, Olivia Osteen and Meredith Deliso for ABC News “Kaitlin Armstrong found guilty in murder of professional cyclist Anna Moriah Wilson,” by Meghan Mariani, Olivia Osteen and Meredith De

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! IT’S HAPPENING!!! *THE* Ellyn Marsh and *THE* Joey Taranto from the fantastic podcast, I Think Not! joined us for a very special episode! Like any good host, Brandi served up what she does best… a kidnapping… AUSTRALIAN STYLE! Well, she doesn’t *do* the kidnappings, she just tells about the kidnappings. And this one is a doozy. The kidnapping of Carolynne Watson and Julian Buchwald involves roadkill, a hate group, and a very creepy, very predatory boyfriend. We suggest you buckle up. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Case 07: Julian Buchwald & Carolynne Watson” podcast episode, Casefile “KIDNAPPING: Carolynne Watson” by Natasha Leigh, Medium “Order of Nine Angles” wikipedia.org “Twis

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Buckle up, people! Ellyn Marsh and Joey Taranto from the podcast I Think Not! invited us on their show and it was a hoot! Btw, we recommend you listen to this episode while eating a bowl of guacamole.  *** YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  

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Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In the dead of winter, 1979, a man called his local police station with concerns. He’d been staying at the Blue Mill Inn and had just been on the phone with the motel’s desk clerk when he’d heard something unusual. It sounded as if someone had gotten into the office. Perhaps the person had been intent on robbing the motel? The caller heard the desk clerk, Janet Chandler, say “don’t take it all, sir.” When police arrived at the motel, they discovered money missing from the register. Janet Chandler was nowhere to be found. A day later, a snowplow driver discovered Janet’s body by the side of the road. The murder of  22-year-old Janet Chandler shocked the small community of Holland, Michigan. Who had murdered Janet? And why? For decades, those questions went unanswered. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitud

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Michelle Boat was livid. Her husband of more than 20 years, Nicholas Boat, wanted a divorce. Nicholas told Michelle that he’d found someone new – a woman named Tracy Mondabough. Michelle began stalking Tracy. She stalked Nicholas, too. She left Nicholas terrifying voicemails in which she threatened to kill Tracy. So, when Tracy was brutally murdered, investigators immediately had a top suspect. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Michelle Boat” episode Sleeping With A Killer “Tracy Mondabough” chillingcrimes.com “IA v. Boat (2021)” courttv.com “Trial to begin for murder of Ottumwa woman” by Kyle Ocker, Ottumwa Courier “Woman charged in Pella homicide the estranged wife of victim's boyfriend”

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Darren Berg was a bit of a scammer. He scammed his fraternity brothers at the University of Oregon. He scammed a Portland bank. Following each scam, Darren received a slap on the wrist. So was it any surprise that Darren moved onto bigger scams? (No. The answer is no.) By the mid-2000s, Darren was running a $150 million dollar Ponzi scheme. He had two yachts, two private jets, and a sweet hot tub to show for it. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Seattle Roasted,” episode of American Greed “Financial empire, luxurious lifestyle were built on a a mirage,” by Rami Grunbaum for Seattle Times “Prison escape of Darren Berg, Washington’s ‘Mini Madoff,’ is like ‘Shawshank Redemption,’ official says,” by Mike Carter for the S

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Melvin Eugene Hanson was dead. The 46-year-old had apparently passed away in his doctor’s office after he’d called to complain about chest pain. Right away, investigators were suspicious. Why had Melvin’s doctor encouraged him to come into the office? Why not tell him to go to the emergency room? Dr. Richard Boggs was quick to provide an answer. He said that Melvin didn’t trust other doctors. But investigators couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Blood, Sweats, and Tears” episode The Real Murders of Los Angeles “Mistaken for Dead” episode Forensic Files “After Doctor Claims a Man Died in His Office, Cops Uncover a Murder and $1 Million Insuran

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Michael was terrified… and frankly, confused. Two masked men had just broken into his Newport Beach home. They’d beaten him mercilessly. They’d threatened him with a gun. They’d zip tied his wrists and ankles. And then, they demanded money. Michael offered them everything he had, but it wasn’t good enough. They wanted a million dollars, cash. Michael told them the truth – he didn’t have that kind of money. But they didn’t believe him. Soon, a third intruder joined in. The captors took Michael and his roommate, Mary Barnes, out to the Mojave Desert, where they demanded that he dig up the million dollars. But Michael couldn’t appease them.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Gruesome Mutilation. A Global Manhunt. Insi

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Leonila Stickney died from a gunshot wound, her fiance Russell Bertram was quick to provide an explanation. The former police chief told investigators that she’d died in a hunting accident. He explained that she’d been in the passenger’s seat of his truck when he climbed into the driver’s seat. As he climbed in, he’d pointed the gun in her direction. He claimed she’d grabbed the barrel of the gun, keeping it pointed at herself, and leaned in for a kiss. Then the gun went off. He was totally innocent! Nothing to see here! Infuriatingly, investigators bought his story. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Hunter and the Hunted” episode Accident, Suicide or Murder “Jealousy, greed marked

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Well hello, everyone! We recorded this episode a few days after we returned from Obsessed Fest ‘23. … Though it’s probably more accurate to say that we recorded this episode a few days after we *fled* Obsessed Fest ‘23. Eh, tomayto, tomahto.  We talk about Obsessed Fest quite a bit in this episode, but if you’d like more information about what happened, we have two recommendations:  First, we recommend listening to the latest episode of the podcast One Dry Kiss. Their episode, “Obsessed Mess, Mischief MisManagement and Amazing People and Podcasters,” is a firsthand account of what the weekend was like for attendees.  Second, we recommend listening to the latest episode of Rabia and Ellyn Solve the Case, titled, “About Damn Crime: Obsessed Fest.” In that episode, Ellyn Marsh, Rabia Chaudry, Joey Taranto, Maggie Freleng, Daisy Eagan, Amber Hunt, Harris Lane and Ashleigh Gibson share their experiences from the weekend. If you like receipts,

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! It was Halloween night. Doreen Erbert and her four-year-old daughter were cuddled up on the couch, watching a movie, when they heard a knock at the door. The knock sounded aggressive, but Doreen got up to answer it. She figured that she was about to encounter an eager trick-or-treater. Instead, she encountered a man in a wolf costume. Just before he attacked her, Doreen yelled to her daughter to hide.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “William Dennis” episode Snapped “JUSTICE STORY: Halloween horror as a masked man murders woman and baby” by Mara Bovsun, New York Daily News “Man In Wolf Mask Hacks Pregnant Ex-Wife To Death With Machete On Halloween Night” by Benjamin H. Smith, oxygen.com “G

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Nicholas Firkus couldn’t believe what he was hearing. It sounded like someone was downstairs, trying to break into his home. So he woke his wife, Heidi, asked her to call 911, and grabbed his shotgun. The couple moved quickly, hoping to get downstairs and out the back door before the person broke in. But they didn’t make it. To hear Nick tell it, the intruder broke in and wrestled him for control of the gun. The gun went off twice — hitting Nick and Heidi in the process. Heidi didn’t survive the shooting, so that left Nick to tell police what happened that morning. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Stranger in the house” episode of 20/20 “Second wife’s suspicions confirmed with ex-husband’s arrest for murder,” by B