The Taking Donors Seriously® Podcast

In this episode of the Taking Donors Seriously podcast, Brad Layland interviews Justin Burkholder, the International Director of Team, a mission-sending organization with a rich history of over 135 years. They discuss the legacy of Team, the challenges of funding and measuring impact, and Justin's personal journey as a missionary kid. The conversation highlights success stories from the field, future aspirations for sending more missionaries, and the importance of leadership and education in mission work. Website: https://www.team.org/ Books: The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl Trueman The Missionary Movement in Christian History by Andrew Walls

Have you ever wondered where our fundraising framework came from? In 2009, before Brad joined The FOCUS Group, he interviewed Bill Hautt, founder of The FOCUS Group. As you'll learn, Bill was a key thought leader in developing the Taking Donors Seriously (TDS) framework through his work with Young Life.  Some nuggets you won't want to miss: What's the biggest weakness in fundraising? What do we mean by the 20/80 rule? What's the "fulcrum" of fundraising? What is often the number one chracteristic of a major donor? For a full explanation of these principles and more, check out Brad's book Turning Donors into Partners.

In this episode, Brad interviews Daniel McCollum, CEO of Torrent Consulting and Torrent Impact Sourcing. They discuss Daniel's journey from a computer science graduate to a missionary in Russia, and then to Malawi, where he discovered the power of creating jobs as a form of ministry. Daniel shares how he started Torrent Impact Sourcing, focusing on providing meaningful employment opportunities to professionals in Guatemala. The conversation highlights the impact of employment on families and communities, the growth of Daniel's businesses, and the vision for the future. Torrent Impact Sourcing: https://torrentimpactsourcing.com/ Torrent Consulting: https://torrentconsulting.com/ Book Recommendation Give Work: Reversing Poverty One Job at a Time by Leila Janah TED Talk: https://youtu.be/oQZJ4ot4ONQ?si=zq33q84GVxK4Pg4c  

In this conversation, Brad Layland interviews Katie Robertson, the founder of the Anchor Gathering, a women's outreach ministry aimed at encouraging women in their faith. Katie shares her personal journey, including the loss of her daughter, which inspired her to create a supportive community for women. The discussion covers the growth of the Anchor Gathering, the challenges of fundraising, and the impact of personal testimonies on the ministry's success. Katie emphasizes the importance of faith, community, and the transformative power of Jesus Christ in women's lives. Website theanchorgathering.com Book Recommendation Dream Big: The Henrietta Mears Story by Henrietta C. Mears  

In this episode, Brad Layland interviews Keith Nix, the head of Veritas School (Richmond, VA), discussing the school's transformation from a young startup to a thriving educational institution. They explore the challenges and successes of fundraising campaigns, the importance of building relationships with donors, and the personal impact of the school on families. Keith shares valuable insights on leadership, the significance of community, and the role of faith in their journey. He also recommends essential readings for leaders looking to grow and develop. Website: https://www.veritasschool.com/ Book Recomendations Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World, by Tom Holland  After You Believe: Why Christian Character Matters, by N. T. Wright The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else In Business, by Patrick M. Lencioni Read ancient writings: Church Fathers, Roman leaders Marcus Aurelius, Augustine’s Confessions (Sarah Rudin’s translation)

What can God do with seven students, four families, and a church basement? A whole lot. Head of School Courtney Palumbo shares how Regent School of Charlottesville grew from a one-room start to a 280-student campus—with significant moments along the way, including a miraculous 20-acre land acquisition and a $600,000 donation that started with a box of paper.  Website: https://regents-school.org Book Recommendations: Boys Adrift, by Leonard Sax Values Over Valuables: Daring to Live the Life Money Can't Buy, by Harmon Kong  

In this episode, Brad Layland interviews Steve Atkinson, CEO of The Bible Project, discussing the organization's mission to help people experience the Bible as a unified story that leads to Jesus. They explore Steve's journey from business to nonprofit leadership, the philosophy of generosity, and the innovative crowdfunding model that supports The Bible Project's mission. The conversation highlights the impact of the organization and the importance of community engagement in their work. In this conversation, Brad and Steve discuss the unique approach of the Bible Project, emphasizing the importance of running at the speed of generosity, the impact of community and patronage, and the transformative stories that arise from their work. They explore the balance between numbers and personal stories, the vision for future growth, and the role of education in their mission. The discussion highlights the freedom that comes from trusting in a higher purpose and the importance of inviting others into a shared journey

Russ Gregg joins us to share the transformative journey of founding Hope Academy, a classical Christian school in Minneapolis that serves children living in poverty. Russ shares his personal story of faith and commitment to education, detailing the challenges faced in starting the school and the miraculous ways God provided resources and support. The discussion also covers the establishment of the Spreading Hope Network, which aims to replicate the success of Hope Academy in other cities, emphasizing the importance of community involvement and the need for both founders and funders in educational initiatives. Book: Gospel Patrons, by John Rienhart https://spreadinghopenetwork.org/ https://www.hopeacademympls.org/  

Bryan Bademan didn’t set out with a grand vision for Anselm House. When he joined the Christian study center at the University of Minnesota over 15 years ago, the ministry was struggling. It took five challenging years of dedicated effort just to achieve financial stability. However, as Bryan often notes, “God really loves the students and community at this university.” This love has been demonstrated through significant changes, including a renewed vision, a strategic relocation to the heart of the main campus in Minneapolis, and increased resources. Listen to our conversation to hear about this journey and how these developments have positioned Anselm House to become a leading force within the broader Christian study center movement.  Important Book From Christendom to Apostolic Mission: Pastoral Strategies for an Apostolic Age, by Monsignor James P. Shea  Website https://anselmhouse.org/  

In this conversation, Brad and Scott Brown discuss the mission and impact of Globe International, a unique mission-sending agency that empowers missionaries to pursue their individual callings. Scott shares his personal journey with Globe, the challenges faced in fundraising, and the transformative role of The FOCUS Group in enhancing their development efforts. They highlight success stories from missionaries who have benefited from the "Taking Donor Seriously" model and discuss the future vision for Globe, including new training initiatives and courses. The conversation concludes with Scott sharing his love for books and his own writing endeavors. Globe International https://globeintl.org/ Taking Donors Seriously https://takingdonorsseriously.com/ Books Three Finger: The Mordecai Brown Story, by Scott Brown Baseball in Pensacola: America's Pastime & the City of Five Flags, By Scott Brown You Can Work Your Own Miracles, by Napoleon Hill The Circle Maker: Praying Circles Around Your Biggest Dreams and Grea

In this conversation, Brad interviews Nick Stumbo and John Begeman from Pure Desire Ministries, discussing their mission to help individuals overcome sexual addiction and the importance of community in healing. They share personal stories of struggle and recovery, emphasizing the need for churches to address sexual issues openly. The discussion also covers fundraising challenges, the growth of Pure Desire, and the impact of their counseling programs. The conversation highlights the importance of vulnerability, donor engagement, and the vision for changing church culture around sexual health. Pure Desire: Helping People Break Free from Sexual Struggles by Ted Roberts https://puredesire.org/ Resources: Weekly podcast, stories of healing, Unwanted by Jay Stringer, 7 Pillars of Freedom workbook. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Pure Desire Ministries 02:05 Nick Stumbo's Journey and Role 05:11 John Begeman's Background and Connection 06:43 The Importance of Vulnerability in Healing 09:45 Changing Church Culture Aro

In this episode, Brad sits down with John Hudson, the founder of 100 Fold Studio, a nonprofit international architecture firm based in Montana that serves both the spiritual and physical needs of communities worldwide. John shares how 100 Fold uniquely blends architecture with vocational discipleship—designing for ministries while equipping the next generation of architects to use their skills for God's kingdom. John’s journey is one of faith, resilience, and obedience to a calling greater than himself. From his early influences in architecture, including his grandmother’s legacy, to a life-changing moment in a remote village, John recounts how God led him to create 100 Fold Studio. He also shares the trials that shaped his path—losing a home, facing setbacks, and ultimately trusting God's plan. As the conversation unfolds, John and Brad discuss the remarkable success of 100 Fold’s recent capital campaign, surpassing its $4 million goal ten months early! John reflects on the overwhelming generosity, divine pr

Learning about Water Street Mission’s decade-long transformation to become a place that physically demonstrates the love of Christ–especially to those experiencing homelessness–would be a great story. The bonus is that, in this podcast, you will also get to know Jack Crawley who has been serving with the organization over 30 years and now serves as its president. His reflection on their strategic planning process? “I didn’t want it to be Jack’s strategic plan, and I knew there was a possibility of manipulating the process for that to happen. I wanted to respect the work God is doing at Water Street Mission and make sure we discerned His strategic plan for this organization.” I call that a dose of radical honesty.  Water Street Mission website: https://wsm.org/

Join us as we explore the transformative journey of leadership with Nigel Pollock, President of InterVarsity Canada. Tasked with revitalizing a nearly century-old ministry, Nigel began his tenure facing a $6 million debt, only to encounter the added challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic soon after. Through it all, he has focused on fostering a culture of kindness, trust, and acceptance, while introducing innovative strategies to advance their mission. In this episode, Nigel shares timeless wisdom, practical insights, and inspiring encouragement for leaders navigating their own paths of renewal. Tune in and be inspired to build a healthier, purpose-driven culture in your organization. https://ivcf.ca/about/ Book Recommendations “Retired: What Footballers Do When the Game's Up” by Alan Gernon “A Terrible Glory: Custer and the Little Bighorn - the Last Great Battle of the American West” by James Donovan “Holiness Here: Searching for God in the Ordinary Events of Everyday Life” by Karen Stiller

Thomas Keown grew up in Northern Ireland during “The Troubles,” a time of conflict that deeply formed him. Inspired by this experience, Thomas dedicated himself to serving others facing similar struggles and empowering them to create solutions within their own communities. In this episode, Thomas shares the powerful story behind founding Many Hopes, and his counter-intuitive learning that to fundraise well, sometimes you need to slow down. Books Recommendations “Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High” Several Authors “Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty” by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson Links The Rising Video Website: https://manyhopes.org/  

In this episode, Brad, Dan, and Jamie from The FOCUS Group bring a mix of humor and expertise to tackle a crucial topic in nonprofit fundraising: year-end appeals. Fundraising can feel daunting—Who should you target? What's the best way to execute your strategy? How do you follow up effectively? Join us as we break it all down, share actionable insights, and offer practical tips to help make your year-end fundraising campaigns more manageable—and successful. TheFOCUSGroup.com

Do you ever feel like God has called you to a big, challenging task? So did Rim Hinckley, founder and Head of School at The Geneva School of Manhattan. She started her career as a math teacher but soon found herself in NYC feeling the tug to respond to late pastor Tim Keller’s question: “What does this city really need?” Being faithful to answer that question has not been an easy road, but Rim shares, “Our timing is not the same as God’s, but when he delivers us, it’s more amazing than we can imagine.” Website: https://www.genevaschool.net/ Recommended Books: “Timothy Keller: His Spiritual and Intellectual Formation” – by Collin Hansen “The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness” by Jonathan Haidt “Strange New World: How Thinkers and Activists Redefined Identity and Sparked the Sexual Revolution” – by Carl R. Trueman

Service, Learning & People. Romanita calls these the “red threads” that have been woven into her life and work since she was little. Her current role as CEO of M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust is simply the next step in her journey of living out these themes and following the quiet leading in her life. As a leader, she seeks to lift up and empower everyone around her by listening well and always investing in people. https://murdocktrust.org/ Book recommendations: A Testament of Devotion by Thomas Kelly The Way of the Heart: Connecting with God Through Prayer, Wisdom, and Silence by Henri Nouwen  

Andrew Smalley is UK-born, loves running and triathlons, and relishes the role he gets to play as head of school in St. Augustine, FL. Hear about Andrew’s journey to his current leadership role and the joy he finds in furthering classical Christian education. The school is in the process of launching a capital campaign, and Andrew knows that to do it well, “You have to start with a strategic plan that tells you what you need to raise money for.” https://veritasclassicalschool.org Books Mentioned Mathematics for Human Flourishing, by Francis Su The Coddling of the American Mind, by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt  

Reid Saunders is an evangelist who has led his organization for 27 years. During the past 15 years of Brad and Reid's friendship, RSA has grown 10x and has seen a million people make decisions to follow Jesus worldwide! Enjoy this inspiring and fun interview. Our prayer is that you are encouraged in your journey. Reid’s Book Recommendation: Finishing Strong: Going the Distance for Your Family by Steve Farrar Links: https://reidsaunders.org/ https://reidsaunders.org/books/ Book mentioned: Stories From The Ends Of The Earth