Synopsis
A weekly podcast from CITIUSMAG.com hosted by Chris Chavez. Interviewing the stars of track and field every week. Whether it's athletes, coaches, agents, writers or other interesting figures from running culture, we sit down for a laid back chat on the latest happenings in the sport. Be sure to check out CITIUSMAG.com for all your latest running commentary.Support the show. Leave a five-star review on iTunes or shoot us a dollar or more. Our Venmo is open: @CitiusMag.
Episodes
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Jane Hedengren On Making The Leap From High School Phenom To NCAA Record Holder At BYU
23/12/2025 Duration: 01h07min“That is the fun part for me – being able to be pushed to my limits, be out there doing it with other strong women, working off each other, and having a great coach and support staff. That’s so fun to me: the really, truly hard work. There’s just so much I love about this sport and this team, but that’s definitely how I would describe this first semester so far. It’s just been so much fun. I’m really looking forward to building with this team and just continuing to work hard and make some memories.”My guest for today’s episode is Jane Hedengren, and if the last few months are any indication, we’re watching the very beginning of something special. She is one of the biggest breakout stars of 2025.Just two weeks after finishing runner-up at the NCAA Cross Country Championships as a true freshman at BYU, Jane stepped onto the track in Boston and ran 14:44.79 for 5,000 meters, shattering the collegiate record — indoor and outdoor — and immediately vaulting herself to No. 2 on the U.S. all-time list indoors.Jane ca
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Office Hours: Peninsula Distance Club’s Dena Evans On 25 Years Of Excellence In Coaching + Developing Talent And U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifiers
19/12/2025 Duration: 01h09min“One of the things we talk about on our team is if everyone is giving 51% or more and never taking more than 49%, your ecosystem is always going to be in balance. But if everyone isn’t willing to give more than 49% and they’re always taking more than 51%, then the ecosystem is never going to be in balance. We just try to keep an environment where people are waiting for other people to go to the bathroom, giving each other rides, taking turns at the lead, doing the little things. My guest for today's episode is coach Dena Evans of the Peninsula Distance Club, one of the most experienced, influential, and quietly impactful leaders in American distance running. What happened at CIM just doesn't come out of nowhere. It was the product of more than 25 years of coaching spent moving between youth athletes, post-collegiates, pros, and learning how to build something that lasts.Along the way, Coach Evans has worn just about every different hat that this sport has to offer. She was the women's head coach f
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Olympic Champion Julien Alfred To Race 60m At 2026 Millrose Games, Indoor Plans, Handling Pressure + 2025 Lessons
18/12/2025 Duration: 56minOur guest for today’s episode is one of the most exciting sprinters in the world right now. Julien Alfred is the reigning Olympic champion in the 100m, a World Indoor champion in the 60m, and the athlete who is rewriting history for St. Lucia on the biggest stages in track.On February 1st, 2026, Julien will return to The Armory in New York City to headline the women’s 60m at the Millrose Games — the same track where she ran a meet record back in 2024 before going on to win world and Olympic gold.Our conversation with her isn’t just about medals or times; it’s about what comes after the breakthrough year and how you learn to carry success without letting it crush you.Julien opens up about navigating pressure, expectations, and loneliness at the top and about growing up fast in St. Lucia, leaving home to chase a dream in Jamaica, Texas, and beyond, and learning how to protect her mental health while still pushing her limits.We talk about trust — in her coach Edrick Floreal, in the process, and in herself — and
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Grand Slam Track Files For Bankruptcy, We’re Owed $272K + Athing Mu Switches Coaches, Sinclaire Johnson Nearly Breaks The Road Mile WR (Bonus: Interview w/ Ben Rosario On The Marathon Project)
18/12/2025 Duration: 02h23minIn this week’s episode, Chris, Mac and Preet discuss:– Grand Slam Track declares for bankruptcy– Our partnership with them and being owed $272K– The impact of the bankruptcy declaration and the athletes– Recapping the European Cross Country Championships– Athing Mu has parted ways with coach Bobby Kersee– Highlights from the Merrie Mile and Honolulu Marathon weekend– Interview with Ben Rosario ahead of the Marathon Project this weekend (1:35:34)____________Mentioned in this episode...Listen: An Update On The State of CITIUS MAG + Summer 2023 Plans For U.S. Championships + World Championships ____________Hosts: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Mac Fleet | @macfleet on Instagram + Preet Majithia | @preet_athletics on InstagramProduced by: Jasmine Fehr | @jasminefehr on Instagram____________SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSNOMIO: Made with 80% broccoli sprout juice, 15% lemon juice, and 5% sugar, Nomio activates your body’s natural defense systems to reduce lac
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USATF Cross Country Championships Recap, Valencia Marathon Results, OTQ-mania At CIM + Josh Hoey Breaks The 600m WR & Jane Hedengren Shatters The NCAA 5K Record + More
11/12/2025 Duration: 01h52minChris Chavez and Preet Majithia unpack all the biggest highlights from this weekend in the running world: - US Cross Country Championships Recap – Who made Team USA for Tallahassee?- Valencia Marathon Recap | Joyciline Jepkosgei – 2:14:00 (Course Record, World Lead) + John Korir – 2:02:24- California International Marathon (CIM) Highlights | Molly Born and Futsum Zeinesellassie take the wins + 54 women and 52 men earned 2028 OTQs.- BU Season Opener (Indoor Track) | Josh Hoey breaks the indoor 1000m world record. Jane Hedengren runs 14:44 to become #2 US indoor all-time, #11 in world history.- World Athletics announces some rule changes | Relays now limited to two substitutions between rounds. World Indoor 400m will be contested as A and B finals (no more all-out semis). Long jump rule change (takeoff zone) is scrapped after backlash.- Jakob Watch | Jakob Ingebrigtsen scratches from Euro XC.____________Hosts: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Preet Majithia | @preet_athletics
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Scott Fauble Retires: An Exit Interview On A Marathon Career Built On Toughness, Belief & Boston Brilliance
04/12/2025 Duration: 01h10min“As much as I wanted to win – what I really was after, what really drove me was finding out how good I could be. And it turns out I did. I found out how good I could be. I had a four or five-year stretch where seventh place in Boston was as good as I could be and 2:09:02 and 2:08:52 – right in that range was as fast as I could run. So, I found out. And it wasn’t good enough to win a major, but it was fun. It was a lot of fun to find out.”My guest on today's episode is a close friend of CITIUS MAG and for the better part of a decade, one of the most respected, most relatable marathoners in the United States: Scott Fauble. He's here with us for a big announcement after years of doing things his way and doing them well. Scott is officially retiring from professional running.If you've followed American marathoning at any point over the last seven or eight years, you know that Scott wasn't just good; he was consistently, relentlessly, unapologetically confident. Boston became his stage. He was top
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USATF Cross Country Championships + Valencia Marathon Preview | Catching Up On LA 2028 Schedule, Grand Slam Track’s Mess + More News
02/12/2025 Duration: 01h54minChris Chavez and Preet Majithia are back at it to preview the USATF Cross Country Championships in Portland this Saturday as well as the Valencia Marathon on Sunday. They also unpack the L.A. 2028 Olympics schedule, dive into some of the updates surrounding Grand Slam Track's financial situation, and lots more.____________Hosts: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Preet Majithia | @preet_athletics on InstagramProduced by: Jasmine Fehr | @jasminefehr on Instagram____________SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSNOMIO: Made with 80% broccoli sprout juice, 15% lemon juice, and 5% sugar, Nomio activates your body’s natural defense systems to reduce lactate, speed recovery, and enhance muscle adaptation. Take one 60 ml shot three hours before training or racing and feel lighter, stronger, and more resilient. Available at The Feed — use code CITIUS15 for 15% off | https://thefeed.com/collections/nomioWAHOO: The KICKR RUN isn’t just another treadmill; it’s a complete re
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Evan Jager Retires: An Exit Interview With The Olympic Silver Medalist, U.S. Steeplechase Record Holder
24/11/2025 Duration: 01h50min“I've been thinking about it for a while… It was pretty apparent. I think because I'm very happy with how my career went, it made the decision easy. Realizing that I'm not in the mix for making teams anymore, I didn't want to keep running just to try to make USAs year in, year out. I felt good about everything and it felt like the right time.”Evan Jager, a two-time Olympian for Team USA, is ending his professional track career at the age of 36. Jager is the most decorated U.S. steeplechaser in history, winning Olympic bronze in 2016 and World silver in 2017 along with seven straight national titles from 2012 to 2018. Jager’s 8:00.45 personal best, set in 2015, is the American record and he owns nine of the ten fastest marks on the U.S. all-time list. After years of injuries, Jager was able to make one last World team in 2022 and finished fourth at last year’s Olympic Trials. Jager discussed his long, storied career in an Exit Interview with Chris Chavez.____________Host: Chris Chavez | @chri
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2025 NCAA XC Championships Recap: Habtom Samuel Finally Victorious, Doris Lemngole Defends Title, NC State Women Win Team Battle, OSU Gets Redemption For Men's Title + More
23/11/2025 Duration: 19minThe 2025 NCAA Cross Country Championships delivered on the hype! Isaac Wood and Paul Hof-Mahoney recap all the biggest takeaways from an action-packed morning in Columbia, Missouri, including:- Women’s individual champion: Defending champion Doris Lemngole puts her championship experience to use, running 18:25.4 to win over Jane Hedengren’s 18:38.9.- Men’s individual champion: New Mexico’s Habtom Samuel runs 28:33.9 to finally get his individual cross country victory after finishing runner-up last year.- Women’s team champion: Hannah Gapes and Grace Hartman’s 5th and 6th place finishes lead NC State to the team win with 114 points over BYU’s 130 points.- Men’s team champion: OSU redeems themselves from last year’s 7th place showing to finish with 57 points ahead of New Mexico’s 82 points. + Reactions and analysis on the biggest surprises and most exciting moments, including Syracuse finishing 4th, Hilda Olemomoi peaking at just the right time, and lots more.
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Cole Hocker & Grant Fisher On Their Rivalry Ahead Of Millrose Games 2-Mile Showdown + 2026 Plans
19/11/2025 Duration: 50min“You get these really unique matchups that you probably wouldn’t get in the lead-up to a championship, but you can in a lead-up to Millrose because people are looking to race and have some fun.” - Grant FisherBuckle up because one of the greatest indoor matchups that we've ever seen is officially coming back to the Armory. Today's episode is all about a rematch that we already have to look forward to in 2026. Cole Hocker and Grant Fisher are stepping back onto that 200m track at the Armory for the 2026 Millrose Games. This time, for a 2-mile showdown.Last year, these two didn't just race over 3000m; they absolutely rewrote the history books. Grant Fisher dropped a world record of 7:22 and Cole Hawker was right behind him in 7:23. Both men went under the previous world record. Both men ran absolutely fearlessly. It set them up very well for strong 2025 outdoor campaigns.Now as we fast forward into 2026, Cole Hocker is heading into the new year as the Olympic champion in the 1500m and the reigning w
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2025 NCAA CROSS COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIP PREVIEW
18/11/2025 Duration: 01h12minChris Chavez and Isaac Wood preview the 2025 NCAA Cross Country Championships set to take place in Columbia, Missouri this weekend.- The NCAA Cross Country Championships are Isaac’s Super Bowl- Key Regional performances and takeaways- The Case For and Against NC State, BYU, Florida, New Mexico, Notre Dame and Oregon on the women’s side- The Case For and Against Oklahoma State, Iowa State, New Mexico, Syracuse, Virginia and Oregon on the men’s side- Is this Jane Hedengren’s title to lose?- Can Habtom Samuel finally pull off the win?- Who will be the top American and top freshman on the men’s side?____________Hosts: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Isaac Wood | @isaacew on InstagramProduced by: Jasmine Fehr | @jasminefehr on Instagram____________SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSNOMIO: Made with 80% broccoli sprout juice, 15% lemon juice, and 5% sugar, Nomio activates your body’s natural defense systems to reduce lactate, speed recovery, and enhance muscle adaptation. Take one 60 ml shot three
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Office Hours | On Athletics Club Coach Laura Thweatt: From Marathoner To Mentor And Guiding Greatness With Hellen Obiri, Joe Klecker
17/11/2025 Duration: 01h01min“My biggest thing has been remembering that I’m not Dathan, I’m not Kelsey, but that’s why I was hired. The three of us all have very different experiences, we bring different things to the table, and we’re just hoping to give the athletes this well-roundedness in support and resources... That’s the really cool part about what OAC is doing. We’re trying to help this next wave of incredible athletes maximize what they’re capable of and it’s okay that we all do that differently.”My guest for today's episode is Laura Thweatt, the former professional marathoner who has now stepped into an assistant coach role and is helping oversee the roads team with the On Athletics Club. For 13 years, Laura was a steady coaching presence for high school runners in Boulde and now she's made the jump to guide the likes of 2025 New York City Marathon champion Hellen Obiri and has also helped Joe Klecker navigate the transition from the track to 26.2.Laura is someone who understands the emotional and psychological side of
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How Geordie Beamish Pulled Off the Race Of The Year For Steeplechase Gold | 2025 World Championships Recap + Reflection
15/11/2025 Duration: 01h25min“I had worked too damn hard to get back to the line to just accept defeat and sit there and not even finish the race. I didn’t even have to think about it. I just got straight back into it… I think it was a bit of a blessing in disguise since I didn’t know what my fitness was like coming in. I thought it was decent, but this was almost an extra test of, ‘Can you fall in the last lap and still make the final? Then alright, you must be pretty fit!’ I tried to take it in a positive light. To be able to do that as comfortably as I did meant that I was in a good spot.”My guest for today's episode is George Beamish, the 2025 world champion in the men's 3000m steeplechase. If you somehow missed it, go back and watch that last lap in Tokyo. It was one for the ages. George was 11th with 400m to go, behind the world record holder and the reigning four-time global champion, but this is textbook George we're talking about. The guy who has made a career out of chaos and closing speed in those final stages of t
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Fiona O’Keeffe After Running An American Course Record At The New York City Marathon In 2:22:49 + What Happened At The Paris Olympics
13/11/2025 Duration: 57min“Sometimes you have these workouts on paper that look pretty intimidating. To be able to get them done and feel strong towards the end of them is always an exciting feeling. Obviously you don’t always nail it, but doing things that maybe you haven’t done before or that you’re not quite sure if you can do is always exciting.”My guest for today's episode is Fiona O'Keefe: the reigning U.S. Olympic Trials champion and now the fastest American woman ever on the New York City Marathon course. She's also someone who's showing us what it looks like to grow, stumble, and come back stronger.In 2024, Fiona burst onto the scene in Orlando with a 2:22:12 performance, the fastest debut marathon in American history. But after the high of that performance came the hardest stretch of her career: an injury that forced her to drop out of the Olympic marathon in Paris after just one mile.It could have been a moment that derailed everything. Instead, it became a lesson that shaped her next chapter. She took her t
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Kylie Mantz: From Not Being A Runner To Walking Onto The BYU Team & Finding Her Own Path To Run A 2:43 In Her First Marathon (Ft. Conner Mantz)
11/11/2025 Duration: 01h24min“I've heard over and over that you have to respect the distance. I kind of understood that, but you need to experience it to have respect for it and the emotional waves that you go through during it. I had heard that and it made sense to me, but the true understanding of that hit later. That was humbling a little bit. It’s not an easy race. You can't fake a marathon.”My guest for today's episode is Kylie Mantz. If that name sounds familiar, yes, she is the wife of CITIUS MAG Podcast regular and U.S. marathon record holder Conner Mantz. But beyond that, Kylie is coming off a year in which she walked on to BYU's track team and can call herself a marathoner now after making her debut just a couple days ago with a strong 2:43 victory at the Two Cities Marathon in Fresno, California. Kylie didn't run much in high school. In fact, she only started running consistently in the last two years or so. At first, it was just to understand her husband's world and then because she realized that she c
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2025 NYC MARATHON RECAP + MELISSA JEFFERSON-WOODEN/BEATRICE CHEBET SNUBBED FOR ATHLETE OF THE YEAR
04/11/2025 Duration: 01h43minThe 54th New York City Marathon is in the books, and what a race it was. Nearly 60,000 runners took to the streets of the Big Apple, and near-perfect weather conditions meant that times were fast and racing was fierce.We got to witness both historically-fast and historically-close races, as three women broke the 22-year-old course record and the men’s race was decided by a photo finish, the smallest margin in the race’s history. Hellen Obiri is now a two-time champ—winning first in 2023 and again in 2025—and Benson Kipruto claimed his fourth World Marathon Major title by mere inches. For the second time this year, Hellen Obiri and Sharon Lokedi claimed the top two spots on a World Marathon Major podium. In April, Lokedi held off Obiri to claim her first Boston Marathon title as both shattered the course record. Once again, Obiri and Lokedi (plus third-placer Sheila Chepkirui, the 2024 champ) worked together to run the fastest time in New York history. Only this time, Obiri turned the tables on her rival with
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Joel Reichow On Finishing Top American At The 2025 New York City Marathon – Unsponsored And Working At A Running Store To Running 2:09
04/11/2025 Duration: 34min“[The marathon] rewards people that are patient, consistent, and build up strength. I’ve got a good engine, so late in the race I feel like my cardio holds up very well. As long as the body holds up, it’s going to be a good day!”My guest for today’s episode is Joel Reichow, who could be viewed as a surprise story of the New York City Marathon and the top American finisher in 2025.In a race packed with Olympians and pros backed by some of the biggest brands in running, Joel — a 32-year-old unsponsored athlete from Minnesota — ran the best race of his life, clocking 2:09:56 to finish sixth overall and claim top American honors.At 24 miles, he was still in 12th and starting to get a bit tired. Then he saw the front starting to come back and ripped a 4:45 mile to catch them. He held strong through Central Park and won out for the U.S. honors over the likes of Charles Hicks and Joe Klecker.Joel’s marathon journey hasn’t been flashy. He ran for South Dakota State under Rod DeHaven, grinded through years on the road
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2025 NEW YORK CITY MARATHON PREVIEW SHOW | LIVE FROM HOKA HEADQUARTERS
31/10/2025 Duration: 01h19minThe 54th running of the New York City Marathon is shaping up to be a great one. The women’s race features four of the most exciting road racers on the scene today, all duking it out for claim to the title of world’s top active marathoner. The high-quality men’s field looks wide open, and the masters battle between two of the sport’s GOATs is sure to keep things interesting. And you can always count on the million-plus spectators lining the streets of all five boroughs to bring unmatched energy to the race.With a forecast calling for pretty ideal conditions—low-40º temps at the start, a high that shouldn’t exceed the mid-50s, and gentle breezes—the weather shouldn’t slow things down too much; that’s a job for the notoriously challenging course.Not counting the Sydney Marathon, which only joined the World Marathon Major ranks this August, New York City boasts the slowest course records of all WMMs. (The men’s record of 2:04:58 was run by Tamirat Tola in 2023, and Margaret Okayo set the women’s mark of 2:22:31 w
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Hillary Bor Unafraid Before Marathon Debut In New York City + Aiming For Top American Honors
31/10/2025 Duration: 10minHillary Bor will be making his marathon debut in Sunday's New York City Marathon. He is taking great confidence from a healthy training block and a runner-up finish at the US 20K Championships, where he ran 56:32 for No. 2 on the U.S. all-time list. He stopped by the HOKA Flagship Store on 5th Avenue in New York City to discuss his preparation for the race.____________Host: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on InstagramGuest: Hillary Bor | @bor.hillary on InstagramProduced by: Mac Fleet | @macfleet on Instagram + Jasmine Fehr | @jasminefehr on Instagram____________SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSHOKA: CITIUS MAG is proud to partner with HOKA for another year of programming out of the HOKA flagship store at 579 5th Avenue, including: giveaways of commemorative HOKA x NYC 2025 merchandise including shirts, tote bags, and more; an easy run with Sofar Sounds + secret concert experience, tonight at 6:00pm; and opportunities to test and shop the HOKA Mach X 3 and the Rocket X 3. HOKA will also have
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Jessica Warner Judd On Making Her Marathon Debut In New York City After Epilepsy Diagnosis In 2024
31/10/2025 Duration: 07minJessica Warner Judd suffered a tonic clonic seizure at the European track and field championships in 2024 and stuggled with symptoms in early 2025. She decided to leave the track to focus on making her marathon debut in New York City. She stopped by the HOKA Flagship Store on 5th Avenue to discuss her preparations for the race.____________Host: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on InstagramGuest: Jessica Warner Judd | @jesswarnerjuddxx on InstagramProduced by: Mac Fleet | @macfleet on Instagram + Jasmine Fehr | @jasminefehr on Instagram____________SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSHOKA: CITIUS MAG is proud to partner with HOKA for another year of programming out of the HOKA flagship store at 579 5th Avenue, including: giveaways of commemorative HOKA x NYC 2025 merchandise including shirts, tote bags, and more; an easy run with Sofar Sounds + secret concert experience, tonight at 6:00pm; and opportunities to test and shop the HOKA Mach X 3 and the Rocket X 3. HOKA will also have a hub at the marathon expo. P