Off The Chain

Fred Thiel is the Chairman & CEO of Marathon Digital Holdings (NASDAQ:MARA), a digital asset company that mines cryptocurrencies with a focus on the blockchain ecosystem and the generation of digital assets. This conversation was recorded at Bitcoin Investor Week In New York. In this conversation we talk about what Marathon Digital currently does, AI vs bitcoin mining, evaluating what is happening at the nation state level, gold vs bitcoin mining, hardware in bitcoin mining, and what Marathon Digital plans to do in the future.=======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.=======================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure t

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss what is happening with bitcoin, Wall Street participation, why the global monetary order is shifting, heading to the bitcoin standard, robots, tariffs, and how Jordi sees the future unfolding.========================Figure Markets is where crypto meets real-world finance. Trade 24/7 with speed and transparency, borrow against your crypto with no credit checks, and earn—all on-chain. Stocks and real estate trading are coming soon, giving you 24/7 access and instant settlement. It’s the best of TradFi and DeFi in one platform. Get started today at https://www.Figure.com/pomp!Disclosures: https://www.figuremarkets.com/disclosures/=======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to

Saifedean Ammous is an internationally best-selling economist and author. In this conversation we talk about bitcoin, are we heading towards a bitcoin standard, global trade, tariffs, what the US government is doing, mistakes they are doing, and what Saifedean would do to fix it. =======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/=======================BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypto ecosystem, powered by revolutionary zero-knowledge technology. No more trusting sketchy bridges or giving up security. BitcoinOS reunites all of crypto around the chain where it all began. Follow BitcoinOS on twitter @BTC_OS and Be early to Bitcoin again.=======================Pomp writes a

Hunter Horsley is the Founder & CEO of Bitwise Asset Management. Matt Hougan is the CIO of Bitwise Asset Management. This conversation was recorded at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation we talk about bitcoin, what has changed since ETFs have been approved, why is buying the ETFs, Bitwise, private wealth, sovereign wealth funds, and is the 4-year bitcoin cycle over?=======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.=======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitco

Polina Pompliano, Author of ‘Hidden Genius’ and Founder of The Profile, and Anthony Pompliano, Author of ‘How To Live An Extraordinary Life’ and CEO of Professional Capital Management, discuss bitcoin, the economy, why gold continues to surge, why the bears are wrong, and why asset prices are going higher.=======================Today’s episode is brought to you by Consensus. Consensus, crypto’s longest-running and most influential event, is coming to Toronto this May 14-16, 2025. Curated by CoinDesk, Consensus will welcome 20,000 builders, investors, policymakers, and pioneers shaping the future of the digital economy. From understanding Bitcoin’s potential amid regulatory shifts to exploring the latest innovations in digital assets and infrastructure, Consensus is your best bet to unlock market-moving intel, make meaningful connections and get business done. You can’t afford to miss it. As a listener of The Pomp, get smarter and get 15% off registration with the code POMP. Register now at go.coindesk.com/pom

Erik Hirsch is the Co-Chief Executive Officer at Hamilton Lane. In this conversation we talk about global uncertainty, bitcoin, gold, investing strategies, tokenization, and why they are putting so much effort and time into it. ===================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at stake.coredao.org/pomp.===================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers. As of December 31, 2021, the company managed over $1.3 billion across an expanding suite of investment solutions, which include the world's largest crypto index fund and other innovative products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. Whether you’re an individual, advisor, or institution, Bitwise provides intelligent access to crypto with your unique circ

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss what is happening in the market, world reserve currency outlook, how tariffs could impact markets, AI, machine learning, stock market, small businesses, and what a bitcoin future could look like.=======================Figure Markets is where crypto meets real-world finance. Trade 24/7 with speed and transparency, borrow against your crypto with no credit checks, and earn—all on-chain. Stocks and real estate trading are coming soon, giving you 24/7 access and instant settlement. It’s the best of TradFi and DeFi in one platform. Get started today at https://figure.com/pomp or signup here to earn your $50 on their Exchange! Disclosures: https://www.figuremarkets.com/disclosures/=======================BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypt

Natalie Brunell is the Host of Coin Stories, bitcoin educator, and journalist. Marty Bent is the Founder of TFTC - a media company focused on bitcoin, and Managing Partner of Ten31.  Thomas Pacchia is the Founder of PubKey - a bitcoin themed bar in New York City.  This conversation was recorded at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation we talk about their journey into bitcoin, balancing bitcoin adoption vs the ethos of bitcoin, bitcoin vs US dollar, what success looks like for bitcoin, and thoughts of the rest of the crypto market.========================Today’s episode is brought to you by Consensus. Consensus, crypto’s longest-running and most influential event, is coming to Toronto this May 14-16, 2025. Curated by CoinDesk, Consensus will welcome 20,000 builders, investors, policymakers, and pioneers shaping the future of the digital economy. From understanding Bitcoin’s potential amid regulatory shifts to exploring the latest innovations in digital assets and infrastructure, Consensus is

David McIntosh is the President of “The Club For Growth” and the Co-Founder of The Federalist Society. In this conversation we talk about bitcoin, stablecoins, what is going on inside the US government, taxes DOGE, tariffs, and much more. ========================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.========================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at stake.coredao.org/pomp.========================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched

Polina Pompliano, Author of ‘Hidden Genius’ and Founder of The Profile, and Anthony Pompliano, Author of ‘How To Live An Extraordinary Life’ and CEO of Professional Capital Management, discuss bitcoin, crypto, gold, tariffs, Anthony recaps his trip to the White House, and he explains why he thinks bitcoin will skyrocket past gold. =======================The future is being built today and the future of currency isn’t dollars, euros, pounds, or yen, it’s crypto. And Gemini thinks that’s a great thing. Because a future where money is decentralized, inclusive, and globally accessible, that’s a future that we are anxious to be a part of. Go where dollars won’t. With Gemini. =======================Reed Smith is a dynamic international law firm dedicated to helping clients move their businesses forward. With an inclusive culture and innovative mindset, Reed Smith delivers smarter, more creative legal services that drive better outcomes for their clients. Their deep industry knowledge, long-standing relationships an

Bo Hines is the Executive Director of the Presidential Council of Advisers on Digital Assets. This conversation was recorded at the White House. In this conversation we talk about the US bitcoin strategic reserve, stablecoins, regulation, how decisions are being made, gold, tariffs, law enforcement side, motivational aspect inside Trump admin, biggest surprises so far, and what Bo is looking forward to. ====================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/====================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.========

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss how the market broke, what is going to happen, what that means for your portfolio, how US gets out of this situation, how China will react, and how bitcoin plays into all of it.=======================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at stake.coredao.org/pomp.=======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkado

Zach Weinberg is the Founder of Curie.Bio, and we debate everything about tariffs. We discuss the current state of the US economy, why people don’t feel wealthy, production vs consumption, purchasing power of the dollar, what America should manufacture, and what we should ultimately do with tariffs?=======================Reed Smith is a dynamic international law firm dedicated to helping clients move their businesses forward. With an inclusive culture and innovative mindset, Reed Smith delivers smarter, more creative legal services that drive better outcomes for their clients. Their deep industry knowledge, long-standing relationships and collaborative structure make them the go-to partner for complex disputes, transactions, and regulatory matters. Learn more at www.reedsmith.com=======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Min

Darius Dale is the founder & CEO of 42Macro. In this conversation, we discuss tariffs, risk assets, blue collar vs. Wall Street, and what could happen next. ========================Today’s episode is brought to you by Consensus. Consensus, crypto’s longest-running and most influential event, is coming to Toronto this May 14-16, 2025. Curated by CoinDesk, Consensus will welcome 20,000 builders, investors, policymakers, and pioneers shaping the future of the digital economy. From understanding Bitcoin’s potential amid regulatory shifts to exploring the latest innovations in digital assets and infrastructure, Consensus is your best bet to unlock market-moving intel, make meaningful connections and get business done. You can’t afford to miss it. As a listener of The Pomp, get smarter and get 15% off registration with the code POMP. Register now at go.coindesk.com/pomp========================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers. As of December 31, 2021, the company managed ov

Polina Pompliano, Author of ‘Hidden Genius’ and Founder of The Profile, and Anthony Pompliano, Author of ‘How To Live An Extraordinary Life’ and CEO of Professional Capital Management, discuss everything that is going on with tariffs, why the tariffs will work, what the tariffs will accomplish, and what Wall Street and the media do not understand. =======================The future is being built today and the future of currency isn’t dollars, euros, pounds, or yen, it’s crypto. And Gemini thinks that’s a great thing. Because a future where money is decentralized, inclusive, and globally accessible, that’s a future that we are anxious to be a part of. Go where dollars won’t. With Gemini. =======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.===================

Anthony Pompliano records a solo episode explaining everything that is currently going on with tariffs, how we got here, President Trump’s tariff plan, examples in history, and where we could be headed from here. =======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/=======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit http

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss all the chaos going on in the the market right now, tariffs, stock market, recession, what we expect other countries to do, interest rates, bitcoin, gold, and how to navigate uncertainty in this volatile market.=========================Today’s video is brought to you by Coinbase, the most trusted gateway to the crypto economy. Coinbase is an American publicly traded company that offers a secure online platform for buying, selling, transferring, and storing cryptocurrency.Get $20 in Free Bitcoin when you sign up and make your first trade here

Tim Kotzman is the host of the Bitcoin Treasuries Podcast. Dan Hillery is an analyst and trader. Ben Workman is the Founder of NumerisX. Jeff Walton is the Founder of $MSTR True North. In this conversation we talk about Microstrategy's bitcoin strategy, potential risks, options market, metrics to keep an eye on, why bitcoin companies stocks trade at a premium, and what could be the next phase of the bitcoin treasury strategy? =======================Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at stake.coredao.org/pomp.=======================BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypto ecosystem, powered by revolutionary zero-knowledge technology. No more trusting sketchy bridges or giving up

Denelle Dixon is the CEO and Executive Director of the Stellar Development Foundation. In this conversation we talk about what’s happening around the world with this technology, how people in emerging markets are using stablecoins and payment rails, Wall Street, and what the future will look like. ======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growin

Tarun Gupta is the Founder & CEO of Coinshift. In this conversation we talk about what is going on with stablecoins, how big they can get, why so many people are trying to launch stablecoins, and the impact of yield-bearing stablecoins around the world. ========================Franzy makes franchise ownership accessible for dreamers, go-getters, and investors alike. With the AI-powered Franzy Fit Score, match with the best brands for your financials, experience, and goals. Explore franchise options, get pre-qualified, and access expert coaching to guide your journey. Ready to own a business? Visit https://franzy.com/pomp today!=======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees us