Off The Chain

Darius Dale is the founder & CEO of 42Macro. In this conversation, we discuss tariffs, risk assets, blue collar vs. Wall Street, and what could happen next. ========================Today’s episode is brought to you by Consensus. Consensus, crypto’s longest-running and most influential event, is coming to Toronto this May 14-16, 2025. Curated by CoinDesk, Consensus will welcome 20,000 builders, investors, policymakers, and pioneers shaping the future of the digital economy. From understanding Bitcoin’s potential amid regulatory shifts to exploring the latest innovations in digital assets and infrastructure, Consensus is your best bet to unlock market-moving intel, make meaningful connections and get business done. You can’t afford to miss it. As a listener of The Pomp, get smarter and get 15% off registration with the code POMP. Register now at go.coindesk.com/pomp========================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers. As of December 31, 2021, the company managed ov