Synopsis
The Third Wave podcast takes a fresh look at the world of psychedelics, hearing the stories of people both in the psychedelic fringe and in mainstream society. We want to share how psychedelics are transforming the lives of people everywhere, both inside and outside of the psychedelic community.By revealing and unraveling the vast range of personal psychedelic experiences, we hope to change the cultural stigma surrounding psychedelic use. Our conversations will focus on the use of psychedelics within two main frameworks: as tools for creativity and as medicine for mental health issues.
Episodes
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Lily Eggers, MA, LMFT - Soulful Alchemy: Healing Relationships with Self & Other
11/09/2023 Duration: 01h33minIn this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Joseph Anew and somatic couples therapist Lily Eggers delve into conscious living for relational healing, parenting, self-discovery, and spiritual growth. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-212-lily-eggers-ma-lmft/ They explore questions like: How can personal responsibility and faith generate self-trust? What role do psychedelics play in illuminating the inner mind? Can relationships serve as conduits for healing and growth? Eggers shares poignant lessons from her teenage shoplifting disaster, transformative cold pool dip, and her experiences leading group couples therapy. Join Joseph and Lily to discover how intentionality, self-awareness, and psychedelics can evoke meaningful transformation and relational harmony. Lily Eggers, MA, LMFT: Lily Eggers is a mom, entrepreneur, Somatic Couples Therapist, singer/dancer, medicine woman, and psychedelic journeyer. She believes that every relationship can be shifted out of mo
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Joseph Anew - Discovering Resilience: Lessons from Spartan Races & Psychedelics
04/09/2023 Duration: 53minIn the latest Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin announces a new co-host who's no stranger to the microphone or transformative practices. Joseph Anew, a seasoned podcaster, former Spartan Race executive, and Director of Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute, brings fresh perspectives and invaluable expertise to the show. The conversation delves into Joseph’s journey from fitness to psychedelics and the unique intersection between the two. Do psychedelics and obstacle-course racing have more in common than meets the eye? How do extreme experiences inform effective psychedelic coaching? Can psychedelics serve as a conduit between mental and physical health? This episode elucidates how pushing human boundaries—be it a psychedelic journey or Spartan Race—can offer profound insights into resilience and well-being. Joseph Anew: Joseph Anew is an “outside the box” thinker, holistic health expert, and personal transformation coach. Across the last twenty years, he has helped thousands transform their p
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Phoebe McPherson - Exploring Kanna: A Gentle Ally for Opening the Heart
28/08/2023 Duration: 56minIn this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes Phoebe McPherson to discuss the resurgence of kanna, a legal psychoactive plant, in the global market. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-210-phoebe-mcpherson Paul and Phoebe explore kanna’s rich South African history, heart-opening qualities, and recent revival in the wellness space. Their comprehensive discussion asks questions like: How does kanna compare to MDMA? What led Phoebe to explore kanna, and how did it change her life? How can this plant help regulate the nervous system? Can you stack kanna extract with psychedelics like psilocybin and LSD? What does a kanna microdosing protocol look like? Paul and Phoebe uncover everything you need to know about starting a kanna protocol, safe product sourcing, and ingestion tips. Phoebe McPherson: Phoebe McPherson is an educator, herbalist, gatherer, and the Head of Brand & Education at Fungtion, a nature-inspired wellness brand on a mission t
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Jonathan Sabbagh - Collaborative Care: Building a Psychedelic-Assisted Mental Health System
21/08/2023 Duration: 59minIn this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes Jonathan Sabbagh, CEO of Journey Clinical, who shares his mission to integrate FDA-approved psychedelics within the modern therapeutic framework. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-209-jonathan-sabbagh/ Jonathan highlights the disjointed nature of today’s mental health system, where therapists and prescribers lack communication, hindering comprehensive assessments and referrals. He and Paul emphasize Journey Clinical’s collaborative care model, streamlining information exchange, and maximizing psychedelic-therapy access through telemedicine innovation. They explore Journey’s potential challenges of scalability, therapist training, and insurance coverage for extended sessions. And they consider the balance between state-level decriminalization, psychedelic medicalization, and decentralized access. Join Paul and Jonathan as they imagine a new mental healthcare infrastructure that addresses the gro
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Spring Washam - Bridging Traditions: Psychedelics, Buddhism, & Ancestral Wisdom
14/08/2023 Duration: 01h09minIn this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin meets meditation teacher and healer Spring Washam at the MAPS Psychedelic Science Conference to discuss Buddhism, psychedelics, and ancestral wisdom. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-208-spring-washam Paul and Spring delve deep into the synergies and incompatibilities across healing modalities. They ask whether indoor practices can ever rival nature’s transformative power. They reflect on innate desires toward rooting on land and the consequences of disconnection. They ask whether the spirit of Harriet Tubman and other ancestral heroes can heal society’s conflicts. And they explore the psychedelic divide between Southern traditions and Northern adaptations. Join Paul and Spring for a fascinating perspective on mindfulness, plant medicine, and the evolution of society. Spring Washam: Considered a pioneer in bringing mindfulness-based meditation to diverse communities; Spring Washam is a well-known teach
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Christian Angermayer - Democratizing Psychedelics: From Ancient Rituals to Modern Medicalization
07/08/2023 Duration: 59minIn this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Christian Angermayer, a serial entrepreneur and investor in psychedelics, longevity, fintech, crypto, and future tech. Get full show notes, links, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-207-christian-angermayer/ Christian is a notable figure in the field of psychedelic medicine, both respected and controversial. He has been a driving force in pushing psilocybin toward FDA-approval. But his company atai Life Science's psychedelic patents have drawn criticism from decriminalization-first advocates. Some wonder if the medical approach to psychedelics conflicts with the idea of open access and shamanic usage. Christian delves into this question, examining opposing views and exploring other dichotomies, such as whether capitalism and spirituality can coexist in the realm of psychedelics. He also considers the potential conflict between the search for psychedelic wisdom and the desire for immortality. Christian’s conversation
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Steven Kotler - Peak-Performance Aging: Using Flow States to Stay Vibrant
24/07/2023 Duration: 01h17minIn this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin reunites with renowned author Steven Kotler to dive deep into the realms of peak performance aging and flow states. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-205-steven-kotler/ Kotler's latest book, Gnar Country: Growing Old, Staying Rad takes center stage as they explore the profound impact of continuous learning, experiences in nature, and adventurous pursuits throughout life. With Kotler's expertise in human performance, the conversation uncovers the secrets to maintaining optimal mental states and staying active in later life. Listeners will embark on a thought-provoking journey into the possibilities of thriving in aging as Steven decodes the neurobiology of flow. Steven Kotler: Steven Kotler is a New York Times bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. Steven is the author
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Jaiya - Embracing Ecstasy: Exploring the Nexus of Sexuality & Psychedelics
17/07/2023 Duration: 01h15minIn this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Jaiya, somatic sexologist and creator of the Erotic Blueprint Breakthrough™. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Jaiya shares the extensive experience and research that led to the creation of the Erotic Blueprint, a framework that helps individuals discover and express their authentic erotic selves. The conversation explores the five Erotic Blueprints–Energetic, Sensual, Kinky, Sexual, and Shapeshifter–highlighting their unique qualities and shadow aspects. The conversation emphasizes that sexual expression, compatibility, and consciousness are learnable skills anyone can cultivate. As the episode unfolds, Paul and Jaiya explore ecstatic states while drawing parallels between sexuality and psychedelics as inherent life forces. Jaiya: Internationally recognized, award-winning sexologist and best-selling author (Red Hot Touch and Cuffed, Tied & Satisfied), Jaiya is the creator of the Erotic Blueprint Breakthrough™ and the Ero
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Evan Cole Lewis, M.D. - Peeking Into the Brain: How Psychedelics Are Redefining Neurology
10/07/2023 Duration: 01h10minDr. Evan Cole Lewis, VP of Psychedelic Neurology at Numinus, joins The Psychedelic Podcast to delve into the world of psychedelic neurology and its potential to revolutionize medicine. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-203-evan-cole-lewis-md/ Dr. Lewis & Paul F. Austin take us deeper into the underlying mechanisms of psychedelics and their impact on neurological networks. The conversation explores how psychedelics like MDMA, ketamine, psilocybin, and LSD can manipulate and reorganize those networks, leading to tailored treatment approaches for people with neurological conditions. From Dr. Lewis’s perspective, precision psychedelic medicine is poised to provide breakthrough treatments for traumatic brain injuries, concussions, functional seizures, cluster headaches, migraines, and mental illnesses. With cautious optimism, Dr. Lewis and Paul envision a future where psychedelics offer transformative solutions for today’s most challenging conditions. Eva
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Scott Omelianuk - Elevated Entrepreneurship: Psychedelics & the Evolution of Leadership
03/07/2023 Duration: 01h04minScott Omelianuk, Editor-in-Chief of Inc. Business Media, joins the Psychedelic Podcast to examine the intersection of entrepreneurship, mental health, and psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-202-scott-omelianuk/ Scott and Paul F. Austin emphasize the importance of supporting founders' mental well-being and how psychedelics can play a role in reducing stress and enhancing mindfulness. Scott openly shares his personal struggles, revealing the profound impact of psychedelic therapy that surpassed years of talk therapy. By embracing mental health challenges, Scott believes leaders can overcome pressures, uncertainties, and isolation, enabling them to become their best selves. The conversation envisions psychedelics as tools to foster human connection and long-term thinking, ultimately cultivating a more conscious and compassionate mindset among entrepreneurs. Scott Omelianuk: Scott Omelianuk is the Editor-in-Chief of Inc. Business Media. He has b
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Russell A. Berman, Ph.D. - Lifted Veils & Cosmic Power: Exploring “Approaches” by Ernst Jünger
26/06/2023 Duration: 01h02minProfessor Russell A. Berman joins the Psychedelic Podcast to explore the captivating life and works of controversial German writer Ernst Jünger. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-201-russell-a-berman-phd/ Jünger’s initial career as a German officer shaped his early books examining war and politics. After the war, Jünger continued writing prolifically, exploring genres like science fiction and nature. He remained a contentious figure due to his conservative and military background. However, in his later years, Jünger became interested in drugs and altered states of consciousness. His book “Approaches,” later edited by Professor Berman, serves as an autobiography through the lens of his experiences with mind-expanding substances. As the episode unfolds, Professor Berman and Paul F. Austin unpack the book “Approaches” and Jünger's psychedelic perspectives. Russell A. Berman is the Walter A. Haas Professor in the Humanities at Stanford and Senior Fellow at
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Salimeh Tabrizi, M.A. - Cultivating Buddha Nature: A Psychedelic Exploration
19/06/2023 Duration: 01h06minIn this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, clinical counselor Salimeh Tabrizi, M.A. and Paul F. Austin examine ayahuasca, cannabis, and the concept of non-duality. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-200-salimeh-tabrizi Salimeh shares her wisdom on the importance of reverence, consciousness, and compassionate witnessing when working with powerful plant medicines. She delves into different ayahuasca lineages and traditions, uncovering valuable insights into their transformative potential. She also explores the delicate balance between masculine and feminine energies, the importance of holistic healing, and the significance of self-care in cultivating Buddha nature. This conversation invites listeners to explore non-dual tools for integrating plant medicine teachings into life’s spiritual journey. Salimeh Tabrizi, M.A. is a clinical counselor, intuitive energy worker, and plant medicine facilitator, educator and advocate. She supports individuals before, du
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Cory & Jay Fiset - The Connection Experience: Psychedelics & Reinvigorating Relationships
12/06/2023 Duration: 01h07minCory and Jay Fiset, a married couple with extensive entrepreneurial experience, join Paul F. Austin to share their psychedelic path to marriage reinvention. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-199-cory-jay-fiset/ The Fisets believe intentional psychedelic use fostered a deep connection that reignited their passion and commitment after years of drifting apart. Psilocybin and MDMA journeys allowed them to be witnessed and heard as their true selves in profoundly healing ways. By letting go of blame and taking personal accountability, the Fisets experienced a shift from co-dependency to self-realization. Cory and Jay now help couples discover self-expression and devotion through their “Connection Experience” psychedelic couples retreats. Cory & Jay Fiset: Cory and Jay Fiset are a husband-and-wife team who have been in relationship for 37 years. After 25 years of marriage, they reinvented themselves and their relationship through intentional use of psyche
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Manesh Girn - Beyond the Default Mode Network: Psychedelics & Complex Systems
05/06/2023 Duration: 01h05minPsychedelic scientist Manesh Girn joins Paul F. Austin to reveal the impact of psychedelics on the brain as a whole. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Manesh Girn is in the latter stages of obtaining his Ph.D. in Neuroscience at McGill University and has been the lead or co-author on over a dozen scientific publications and book chapters on topics including psychedelics and the default mode network. He is currently researching the brain mechanisms underlying psychedelic drugs in collaboration with Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris and other leaders in psychedelic science. As a postdoctoral psychedelic neuroscientist, he will join Dr. Carhart-Harris at UCSF in August 2023. Manesh is also Chief Research Officer at the Canadian psychedelic bioscience company EntheoTech Bioscience. He runs a YouTube channel and Instagram page called The Psychedelic Scientist, where he discusses the latest research in an easy-to-understand but non-superficial form. Girn advocates for a personalized approach to psychedelic
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Jeffrey Stevens - Decoding Amanita muscaria: A New Era of Mushroom Healing
29/05/2023 Duration: 01h07minJeffrey Stevens, co-founder and CEO of Psyched Wellness, joins The Psychedelic Podcast to discuss Calm, the world’s first legal supplement derived from Amanita muscaria. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Amanita muscaria mushrooms’ red-and-white speckled caps are emoji-level iconic. But most people don’t know that consuming low dosages can reduce stress levels, promote relaxation, and offer a restful sleep without next-day grogginess. Amanita extracts also possess anti-inflammatory properties that could significantly relieve pain. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, according to Stevens. As the episode unfolds, Stevens imagines the future of Amanita research for mental health, addiction, and insomnia, while revealing his life-changing experience as a Psyched Wellness guinea pig. Jeffrey Stevens has 20+ years of capital markets’ experience and has been an officer and director with several public companies. He has taken three companies public via reverse takeover, built teams, and str
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Graham Pechenik - The Psychedelic Patent Puzzle: Unraveling the Impact on Innovation vs. Access
22/05/2023 Duration: 01h14minGraham Pechenik, founder and patent attorney at Calyx Law, joins The Psychedelic Podcast to delve into the complex world of patents and their impact on the psychedelic landscape. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Pechenik raises thought-provoking questions about the patent system's role in fostering innovation while also potentially hindering research and restricting use. He suggests that the patent system, intertwined with regulatory and healthcare structures, often determines whether groundbreaking substances like psilocybin gain FDA approval. Pechenik also explores concerns surrounding excessive psychedelic patents, comparing the unique approaches of COMPASS Pathways, MAPS, and Paul Stamets. As the episode unfolds, Graham and Paul contemplate the delicate balance between patent protection and freedom of use in the burgeoning psychedelics industry. Graham Pechenik is a registered patent attorney and the founder of Calyx Law, a law firm specializing in cannabis and psychedelics-related inte
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Daniel Stickler, M.D. - Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization
15/05/2023 Duration: 01h15minIn this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Dr. Daniel Stickler and Paul F. Austin explore the cutting-edge field of longevity and precision-performance medicine. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. After over a decade as a general surgeon, Dr. Stickler abandoned modern medicine’s reductionist approach and forged a new path toward holistic health and optimization. He believes that addressing deficiency mindsets and focusing on purpose, love, and community can help people move beyond simply existing and truly thrive. Through his work, Dr. Stickler has discovered ways to reverse biological aging and help people achieve enhanced states of being. Dr. Stickler shares his insights on how humans can live a life of excellence, the revolutionary field of gene-editing technology, and his transformative psychedelic experiences. Dr. Daniel L. Stickler is the Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer at Apeiron ZOH Inc. He is the pioneer behind systems-based, precision-performance medicine, a new paradigm that re
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Payton Nyquvest - Revolutionizing Mental Health: Challenges & Opportunities in Psychedelic Therapy
08/05/2023 Duration: 01h04minPayton Nyquvest, Founder of Numinus ketamine clinics, joins The Psychedelic Podcast to discuss psychedelic industry missteps, opportunities, & the future of communal healing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Embracing disruptions and learning from failures are essential in the trailblazing space of psychedelics. Encouraging industry resiliency, Payton Nyquvest, Founder, Chair, & CEO of Numinus, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss how to conquer setbacks on the path to revolutionizing mental health. Payton believes successful psychedelic leaders must adapt to real-world needs, embrace challenges, and gain conscious insights from direct experiences. Only then can innovators and practitioners create a lasting impact on the world. Payton Nyquvest is the Founder, Chair, & Chief Executive Officer of Numinus, which empowers people to heal and be well through the development and delivery of innovative mental health care and access to safe, evidence-based, psychedelic-assisted therapies. He ha
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Reid Robison, M.D. - A Better Way to Live & Thrive: Multimodal Approaches to Psychedelic Therapy
01/05/2023 Duration: 01h02minDr. Reid Robison, Chief Clinical Officer at Numinus, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss psychedelic research, legislation, & complementary modalities. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Dr. Robison shares the challenges and innovations in psychedelic therapy, drawing from his own clinical research and current projects at Numinus, a mental health company that brings safe, evidence-based psychedelic-assisted therapies to people in need. Explore topics such as the efficacy of psychedelic-assisted therapies, the pros and cons of psychedelic patents, and the need for multimodal approaches to mental health care. Dr. Reid Robison is a board-certified psychiatrist and Chief Clinical Officer at Numinus, where he oversees clinical services, including teaching and training in ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, for the company's clinics across the US and Canada. He has led over 200 clinical trials in neuropsychiatry and previously served as coordinating investigator for the MAPS-sponsored MDMA-assisted psyc
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Anja Loizaga-Velder, Ph.D. - Walking Behind the Medicine: Bridging Western & Indigenous Healing Paradigms
26/04/2023 Duration: 01h17minDr. Anja Loizaga-Velder, Co-Founder of Nierika, joins Paul F. Austin to explore the therapeutic nature of Ayahuasca & other plant medicines. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. This intimate in-person interview was recorded at Dr. Anja’s plant medicine retreat center in Mexico, just after Paul concluded his own 6-day Ayahuasca experience. Topics covered include: mental health from an indigenous perspective, Dr. Anja’s journey bridging Western medicine with traditional healing practices, and the current environmental and political struggles of indigenous healers in Mexico. Dr. Anja Loizaga-Velder received her master’s degree in psychology (Dipl.-Psych.) from Koblenz-Landau University, Germany, and her doctorate in medical psychology (Dr.sc.hum.) from Heidelberg University, Germany. She is a psychotherapist specializing in humanistic and transpersonal psychology, the study of consciousness, music therapy, and ethnopsychotherapy. Anja wrote both her master’s thesis and her doctoral thesis on th