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In today's episode Danny and Catherine Mullaney are returning for a follow up interview. We will pick up the conversation from where we left off last time. (To hear their part one please go to episode #138) They live one day at a time. When they stay in the stream of life they will fall and get up, fall again and get up, etc. Falling is a part of recovery.  As explained in their first discussion their life’s motto can be summed up from the AA Big Book, “The spiritual life is not a theory. You have to live it.” Today Danny and Catherine will unpack that a little more by talking about the 12 steps which can be described as Trusting God, cleaning house, and helping others. The joy of living or the sweet life as Siobhan likes to say is found by living honestly in community which requires internal house cleaning and being of service to their fellow man whether they are in recovery or not. As Catherine said in our initial interview, “abstinence from sugar and flour is but a beginning.” So let’s go a little dee