Off The Chain

Hany Rashwan is the founder of crypto companies Amun AG and 21Shares AG. He previously founded social commerce company Ribbon and enterprise fintech company Payout. In this conversation, we discuss crypto indexing, US market vs European market, institutional interest, ESG bitcoin, 21 Shares’ AUM growth, and when countries will buy bitcoin.  ======================= Revolut is a finance app in the US and UK, that say they're the simplest way to access crypto. Sign up today at Revolut.com/pomp and make 3 card transactions to get $15, which you can exchange for any tokens Revolut supports. As usual, when you move your money from fiat to crypto your capital is at risk. See T&C's for details. Revolut is a financial technology company. Banking services provided by Metropolitan Commercial Bank, Member FDIC. Cryptocurrency services provided directly by Paxos Trust Company, LLC. ======================= Cosmos is building the Internet of Blockchains, marking a new era of interoperability, scalability, and usabilit