Safety On Tap

This is the first interview for 2019, always exciting for me to get back into the groove of these amazingly insightful conversations, and I get really excited thinking about how much you can benefit from these in addition to my solo reflection episodes.  I've got a great lineup of guests this year, we are planned out for a few months in fact.    My guest today is Dr Jop Havinga.  As you'll hear, Jop's PhD is so fresh that he might as well have been wearing his funny gown and hat in this conversation!