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In today's episode I talk with the ONE and ONLY, Dr. Robert Lustig! He talks about his new book, "Metabolical: The Lure and the Lies of Processed Food, Nutrition, and Modern Medicine," where he addresses nutrition, food science, and global health, and explains how by focusing on real food we can reverse chronic disease and promote longevity.  Describing the eight pathologies within the cell that belie all chronic disease, Dr. Lustig illustrates how they are not “druggable” but rather “foodable” (i.e. medication can’t cure what nutrition can) by following two basic principles: protect the liver, and feed the gut. He uses this science to chronicle the breakdown in our current healthcare paradigm, which has succumbed to influence from Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Government. In the special chapter “Food in the Time of Corona,” Dr. Lustig addresses the way “pre-existing conditions” (i.e. diet-induced chronic diseases) make us vulnerable to succumbing to acute infectious diseases like COVID-19. He also argue