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Dan and Haddie talk to Andy Baio and Andy McMillan about the 2013 XOXO conference September 19th-22nd in Portland, OR, and discuss broader issues including the courage it takes to produce an independent event, the risks and rewards of collaborating with like-minded people, dealing with the fear of success, and more. Links for this episode:XOXO · Portland, OR · September 2013XOXO (xoxo) on TwitterAndy Baio (waxpancake) on TwitterAndy McMillan (andymcmillan) on TwitterConference — XOXO FestivalTwo days of talks from incredible artists and toolmakers. Kind of Screwed - Waxy.orgTL 5by5 | The Pipeline #31: Andy BaioAndy Baio joins Dan Benjamin to discuss joining Expert Labs, Kickstarter, the inspiration for Upcoming.org, working for Yahoo!, the Star Wars Kid, copyrights, and more. 5by5 | The Big Web Show #12: Web Conferences5by5 | The Daily Edition #36: It Deserves To Be RealKind of Bloop: An 8-Bit Tribute to Miles Davis' Kind of BlueKickstarterBuild 2013Good On PaperThe ManualWaxy.org: Andy Baio lives hereSp