How Did We Get Here

“When that hard time hits, I think it’s crucial . . . I love dwelling in a good sad song, if something’s going wrong. If it’s one of these rainy weeks we’re having, you’ve got to turn on Disintegration or Faith and just stew in it.” Gavin Conner, singer-songwriter and co-creator/host of The Holy Hour, talks being here with the shadows of grief and masters of relentless creativity. As one of his songs sums up well: "Life don't mind, taking time to make no sense." Family, songs, appreciation, Disintegration, and time: pop in as we talk about getting from here to there with grief.