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Conservative politician and former independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin talks with The Verge's Walt Mossberg about what comes next now that Donald Trump is the president and the standard-bearer of the Republican Party. McMullin discusses the 501c4 he co-founded, Stand Up Republic, which is trying to organize a grassroots movement to "defend democracy" and its traditional principles. A former CIA operative, McMullin also talks about why there has been an outpouring of anti-Trump leaks from the intelligence community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices