Elite Rugby Banter

With Phil in Japan, Ben joins Ant to talk about the respective records of Jérôme Garcès and Nigel Owens heading into this weekend's World Cup semi-finals. There is also some mild banter, and much insight (we'd argue anyway). They conclude that the Springboks have nothing to worry about apart from themselves. Music by @monstroid, 80s TV Show. Thanks for listening!