The Rich Roll Podcast

Tom Sachs is a contemporary artist and cultural provocateur known for turning branded consumer objects into high art. This conversation explores the paradoxes that define Tom's art and his iconoclastic philosophy of living; why creativity is the enemy, the power of sympathetic magic, consumerism as secular religion, the infamous Barney's nativity scene that launched his career, and why persistence — not talent — is omnipotent. And in doing so, Tom dismantles the intransigent myth that artists are a different species and makes a compelling case that we're all creative beings irrespective of what we do for a living. Tom is equal parts Werner Herzog and blue-collar craftsman. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up  Today's Sponsors: Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever