Rnz: Afternoons With Jesse Mulligan

Feature interview: How to navigate a world of public shaming

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Synopsis

A Polish millionaire snatches a hat as a tennis star hands it to a child at the US Open. Two executives are caught having an affair at a Coldplay concert. Public shaming is everywhere. A.J. Daulerio knows all about exposing humiliating secrets and having some of his own secrets put out into the world. He was the editor of the blog Gawker during its most notorious years. Daulerio is now living a very different story, one marked by sobriety, reflection, and second chances. He helps others face shame and embarrassment with honesty and perspective through his newsletter and podcast The Small Bow.