Rnz: Afternoons With Jesse Mulligan

Former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern rose to global prominence as a leader who spoke the language of empathy in a world increasingly fluent in outrage. She won admiration as only the second woman in history to have a baby while leading a government and for her response to the Christchurch Mosque attacks. But she also faced criticism over the COVID lockdowns and unmet promises on progressive reforms. She joined Jesse for a rare interview on Afternoons.