The Jordan Harbinger Show

Richard Clarke (@richardclarke) served for 30 years in national security policy roles in the US government and worked directly for three presidents. He is the host of the Future State Podcast and co-author of The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats. What We Discuss with Richard Clarke: How we're in constant low-grade cyber conflict with Russia, China, Iran, and other adversarial nation states -- and the forms this can take. Cyber crime was a $600 billion industry (one percent of global GDP) in 2018, much of it perpetrated by rogue nations like North Korea. How cyberattacks can be (and have been) used to wreak physical damage on infrastructure, and why we should take them as seriously as traditional weaponry. Is it the government's job to protect private companies against cyberattacks from foreign powers, or is it up to private companies to be responsible for their own safety? Why there's a crisis-level shortage of cybersecurity expertise coming o