Phil Matier

Governor Gavin Newsom's podcast is rubbing some of his fellow Democrats the wrong way. In his first two episodes, the governor has spoken out against transgender athletes and had a friendly chat with President Trump's ally Steve Bannon, who once again stated that Trump really won the 2020 election. For more on what Newsom may be up to, KCBS Radio news anchor Patti Reising spoke with KCBS insider Phil Matier.