The Third Wave

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes back Jonathan Lu & Shauheen Etminan, founders of VCENNA and the supplement line Ancestral Magi. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-222-jonathan-lu-shauheen-etminan-phd Following up from their first episode, the duo unpack the neurobiology of oneirogens (dream-inducing substances). Delve into the dreamlike realms of consciousness as Jonathan and Shauheen explore the unique effects of beta-Carbolines and Syrian Rue, comparing them to classic psychedelics like psilocybin, LSD, Ayahuasca, and Iboga. Uncover the secrets of lucid dreaming and the ancient traditions that inspired them. Visit Ancestral Magi's website to learn more about their legal, psychoactive formulations based on ancient potions. Use code TW10 at checkout for 10% off their unique supplements. https://ancestralmagi.com/   Jonathan Lu: Jonathan Lu is an engineer who has been studying 2000-year-old Chinese texts in search o