Synopsis
Conversations with a series of people who have nothing in common except that program host Robert Wright is curious about what they’re thinking.
Episodes
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Trump’s Iran War Merry-Go-Round (Robert Wright, Derek Davison, and Daniel Bessner)
29/05/2026 Duration: 35minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Is NonZero or American Prestige the better podcast? AI weighs in 4:38 The state of the US-Iran war. Or is it peace? 18:16 Has Trump already lost the midterms? Does he care? 24:40 The Russia-Ukraine war (and Eric Schmidt) 29:47 What the latest Iran war strikes signal 31:28 Overtime preview: Nuland’s “monsters,” zombie blobsters, Barak Ravid, Bari Weiss, “killzones,” and the Pope vs AIRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True), Derek Davison (Foreign Exchanges, American Prestige, Discontents), and Daniel Bessner (American Prestige, University of Washington). Recorded May 28, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The Pope Takes On AI (Robert Wright & Nikita Petrov)
27/05/2026 Duration: 01h11minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 A Greek pilgrimage, a mystery guest, and a Discord revival 5:57 The first Papal encyclical devoted to AI 11:12 Pope Leo: just war theory is outdated, and AI lets humans dodge accountability 21:28 Anthropic tells the Pope about “mysterious, even unsettling” things inside AI 27:41 Inside the “Kill Zone”: How drones changed the Russia-Ukraine front 34:10 Who gets replaced first: the soldier or the commander? 38:47 Russia’s hypersonic missiles and nuclear signaling 48:25 Do drones favor the underdog? Plus a warning on Taiwan 50:44 The Iran ceasefire wobbles as Israel pushes back 52:23 Heading to Overtime: Greek mystery cults, Teilhard de Chardin, and Blade Runner 57:59 Enter the Mystery Guest: Jeremy Eliosoff, Pause AI CanadaRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded May 26, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Can Rituals Save Us? (Robert Wright & Bruce Feiler)
22/05/2026 Duration: 51minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:52 Bruce’s new book on ritual, A Time to Gather 2:48 The “Lifequake” that led Bruce to study ritual 7:46 The current “shadow ritual” renaissance 11:54 What is a ritual? 15:02 The origins of the shadow ritual renaissance 18:01 Forest bathing and the essence of ritual 25:47 Ritual as the original human algorithm 31:15 Honor walks: a quintessentially modern ritual 35:59 Rituals across Christianity 41:43 What rituals do 46:23 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Bruce Feiler (Council of Dads, Walking the Bible, A Time to Gather). Recorded April 21, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPodsJoin NonZero's Discord server: https://discord.gg/Zy4jAhTQMF
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Understanding Iran (Robert Wright & Hamidreza Azizi)
20/05/2026 Duration: 49minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Hamidreza’s background 8:33 A brief history of US-Iran relations 15:01 Understanding Iranian antipathy toward Israel 21:00 Islam vs Islamism 30:07 The Iran-Iraq security dilemma 35:56 The Iran-Israel security dilemma 44:39 Palestinian objectives and patrons 47:38 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Hamidreza Azizi (The Axis of Resistance, German Institute for International and Security Affairs). Recorded May 14, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Rethinking China (Robert Wright & Zhengyu Huang)
14/05/2026 Duration: 51minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Zhengyu’s tech background and new book, Rethinking China 2:56 What kind of threat is China, really? 10:02 How trading with China transformed America 16:47 The stakes of the chip war 21:58 Will tech war lead to real war? 30:29 The US-China escalation spiral and Taiwan 39:09 “Researching while Chinese”: the new Red Scare? 49:42 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Zhengyu Huang (Rethinking China). Recorded May 13, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Is the AI Takeoff Starting? (Robert Wright & Timothy B. Lee)
12/05/2026 Duration: 43minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Is AI a normal technology? 6:00 Mythos and the METR curve 15:53 The current state of coding agents 20:10 The total turbulence problem 23:11 Does Mythos favor offense or defense? 29:19 Mythos and hype 31:59 Regulating dangerous AI 38:17 The centralization problem 40:22 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Timothy B. Lee (Full Stack Economics, Understanding AI, AI Summer). Recorded May 11, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The New Middle East (Robert Wright & Annelle Sheline)
08/05/2026 Duration: 49minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Annelle’s Middle East bona fides 2:18 The state of play in Iran 7:37 A deepening fissure between Gulf Arab states 21:28 Explaining the Trump-Biden continuity on Middle East policy 26:08 Will the Middle East realign away from America? 34:09 Turkey and the moral hazard of US aid to Israel 39:23 Can Iran mend ties with the Gulf states? 47:03 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Annelle Sheline (The Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft). Recorded May 07, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Trump Lost the Hormuz Round (Robert Wright & Nikita Petrov)
05/05/2026 Duration: 51minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Bob’s big personal news 3:37 The US counter-blockade backfires 10:20 Iran retains escalation dominance 16:19 Why the Iranian regime is built to absorb assassinations 22:39 “Donald, it’s too late for that.” Bob says Trump has to take the L 25:27 Putin’s Victory Day ceasefire (with a threat) 28:25 Russia’s vibe shift: drone attacks, airport shutdowns, Internet blackouts 32:05 Instagram influencer rants at the Tsar 39:00 Siloviki vs. civilian elites 48:12 Heading to Overtime: The Matrix, AI, DMT, interdimensional crocodilesRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded May 05, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Mythos and China (Robert Wright & Lennart Heim)
01/05/2026 Duration: 47minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 How powerful is Anthropic’s Mythos? 7:16 How Mythos looks to China 9:40 Does Mythos mark a new phase in the US-China arms race? 20:45 Can Anthropic contain Mythos? 26:16 Could superhacker AIs bring cooperation? 37:41 How scary is China, really? 45:45 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Lennart Heim (Stealth). Recorded April 29, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The Mattering Instinct (Robert Wright & Rebecca Newberger Goldstein)
28/04/2026 Duration: 50minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Rebecca’s past work on mind and matter(ing) 3:48 Rebecca’s new book, The Mattering Instinct 8:24 Varieties of mattering experience 15:08 Mattering type 1: Heroic Strivers 18:29 Mattering type 2: Socializers 26:20 Mattering type 3: Transcenders 30:37 Mattering type 4: Competitors 40:08 “The” meaning of life problem 43:19 Does what drives us divide us? 49:24 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Rebecca Newberger Goldstein (The Mind-Body Problem, Plato at the Googleplex, Betraying Spinoza, The Mattering Instinct). Recorded April 27, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The Future of Intelligence (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)
23/04/2026 Duration: 44minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Paul’s new baby is reportedly cute 6:34 The Tucker-Trump fracture 11:56 Parenting later in life 19:16 Paul’s TED talk on AI and loneliness 25:05 When does embryo screening become eugenics? 33:53 Is intelligence a positional good? 42:40 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded April 22, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Can Trump and Iran Make a Deal? (Robert Wright & Robert Malley)
21/04/2026 Duration: 43minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Rob’s role in the Obama nuclear deal 2:07 A deal that could work for both Trump and Iran 12:34 Iran’s security “guarantee” problem 20:02 Bob: If I were Iran, I would say… 25:00 What Obama’s negotiators had that Trump’s don’t 29:50 How unified is the Iranian side? 38:08 Is Iran’s Hormuz leverage running dry? 41:28 Heading to Overtime Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Robert Malley (Yale - Jackson School of Global Affairs, Tomorrow is Yesterday). Recorded April 21, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Iran and the Demise of US Hegemony (Robert Wright, Derek Davison, and Daniel Bessner)
16/04/2026 Duration: 45minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:24 Trump’s Middle East chaos continues 5:34 Is Iran more about America’s hegemony or Israel’s? 12:52 Who will win the Hormuz blockade duel? 22:41 Ukraine, China, and the drone wars 27:28 America’s “emergency” emergency 31:41 Is an Iran peace deal possible? 43:04 Overtime preview: The Anthropic Mythos scareRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True), Derek Davison (Foreign Exchanges, American Prestige, Discontents), and Daniel Bessner (American Prestige, University of Washington). Recorded April 16, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Can AI Stop Wars? (Robert Wright & Nikita Petrov)
14/04/2026 Duration: 42minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org2:35 Trump’s Iran blockade breaks the ceasefire 6:04 A Chinese tanker calls Trump’s bluff 10:50 Bob’s case for an Iranian “tollgate” 16:07 Anthropic’s Mythos model is too dangerous to release 23:27 Nikita’s big idea: AI as world peace mediator 39:39 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded April 14, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Dario, Demis, Sam: Assessing the AI Guys (Robert Wright & Shakeel Hashim)
09/04/2026 Duration: 48minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:24 A brief message from Bob 3:50 Shakeel’s newsletter, Transformer, and its mission 7:41 The case(s) against Sam Altman 13:23 OpenAI President Greg Brockman’s political spending 17:40 The founding doctrines of the leading AI labs 23:36 The singleton and the singularity 28:24 How market forces overwhelm good intentions 33:00 Is the singularity near? 41:55 Sam vs. Dario vs. Demis 46:39 Heading into OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True), Shakeel Hashim (Transformer). Recorded April 7, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The Iran War: A Debate (Robert Wright & Eli Lake)
07/04/2026 Duration: 55minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Bob and Eli’s history of (civil) disagreement on Iran 2:02 Is Trump’s war on Iran legal? Does it matter? 8:11 Who’s the real rogue state? 19:26 Israel’s nukes and Iran’s nuclear program 30:05 Is Israel more moral than Iran? 38:45 How Hamas became Hamas 46:04 “Proxy,” “theocracy,” and other fighting words 54:44 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True), Eli Lake (The Free Press, Breaking History, The Re-Education). Recorded April 6, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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MAGA Opposition to the Iran War (Robert Wright, Curt Mills, and Andrew Day)
01/04/2026 Duration: 01h08minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Would America benefit from Iran “winning”? 3:34 Trump’s last exit ramp? 13:20 What’s China’s angle on the war? 17:35 Trump: psychoanalyzed 20:46 Israel: psychoanalyzed 25:15 Iran’s plans for the Strait of Hormuz 30:51 Is this Trump’s biggest blunder? 40:49 The intra-MAGA war over Iran (and Israel) 53:48 Where are the Democrats? 59:49 Antisemitism, alleged and real 1:06:14 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True), Curt Mills (The American Conservative), Andrew Day (The American Conservative). Recorded March 31, 2026.Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Averting a Superintelligence Takeover (Robert Wright & Andrea Miotti)
30/03/2026 Duration: 49minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 Defining (and preventing) superintelligence 6:00 Where the nuclear analogy holds (and where it breaks) 10:38 Imagining an AI inspections regime 14:56 The superintelligence precursors to watch for 18:41 Our dangerous lack of government oversight 25:59 ControlAI’s “bottom-up” approach to AI policy 30:14 The mounting geopolitical challenges to AI governance 47:18 Heading into OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Andrea Miotti (Control AI). Recorded March 17, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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The Iran War and the Singularity (Robert Wright & Nikita Petrov)
27/03/2026 Duration: 49minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:00 Teaser 1:00 Holy Week in Andalusia, and the Christian cross as branding 6:18 Why Bob is skeptical of Trump's diplomacy 10:37 Trump's hand got weaker and he doesn't even know it 13:39 Killing Iran's navy chief won't reopen the Strait of Hormuz 16:43 Nikita: "I find him weirdly persuasive on a hypnotist kind of level" 19:54 The Iran war's secret winner: Vladimir Putin 24:17 Bob checked back into AI podcasts and came out scared 29:23 "Every time I see tribalism on parade, I think: we're toast on AI" 35:13 Russia's Internet shutdowns 47:03 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded March 26, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods
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Israel, America, and the Iran War (Robert Wright & Ron Kampeas)
24/03/2026 Duration: 46minThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org0:28 What (or who) is the Iran war for? 13:00 Joe Kent and the MAGA rift over Israel 24:03 Does antisemitism speech policing foment antisemitism? 38:58 What Ron’s Substack has that others don’t 43:59 Heading to OvertimeRobert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Ron Kampeas (https://ronkampeas.substack.com, Jewish Telegraphic Agency). Recorded March 24, 2026. Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods