The Girls Are All So Nice Here
- Author: Laurie Elizabeth Flynn
- Narrator: Alex Allwine
- Publisher: Simon & Schuster
- Duration: 9:37:23
Synopsis
This reading group guide for The Girls Are All So Nice Here includes an introduction, discussion questions, ideas for enhancing your book club, and a Q&A with author Laurie Elizabeth Flynn. The suggested questions are intended to help your reading group find new and interesting angles and topics for your discussion. We hope that these ideas will enrich your conversation and increase your enjoyment of the book.
Introduction
Two former best friends return to their college reunion to find that they’re being circled by someone who wants revenge for what they did ten years before—and will stop at nothing to get it—in this shocking psychological thriller about ambition, toxic friendship, and deadly desire.
A lot has changed in the years since Ambrosia Wellington graduated from college, and she’s worked hard to create a new life for herself. But then an invitation to her ten-year reunion arrives in the mail, along with an anonymous note that reads, We need to talk about what we did that night.
It seems that the secrets of Ambrosia’s past—and the people she thought she’d left there—aren’t as buried as she’d believed. Amb can’t stop fixating on what she did or who she did it with: larger-than-life Sloane “Sully” Sullivan, Amb’s former best friend, who could make anyone do anything.
At the reunion, Amb and Sully receive increasingly menacing messages, and it becomes clear that they’re being pursued by someone who wants more than just the truth of what happened that first semester. This person wants revenge for what they did and the damage they caused—the extent of which Amb is only now fully understanding. And it was all because of the game they played to get a boy who belonged to someone else and the girl who paid the price.
Alternating between the reunion and Amb’s freshman year, The Girls Are All So Nice Here is a shocking novel about the brutal things girls will do to get what they think they’re owed, and what happens when the games we play in college become matters of life and death.
Topics & Questions for Discussion (12-15 Discussion Questions)
1. “Together we ruled.” The first line of the novel sets up the theme of an alliance, a partnership. Do you think this is true of the relationship between Amb and Sully? At what points does this feel accurate and at what points does it feel less true?
2. The novel is told in alternating storylines, fluctuating between the characters’ first year of college and their school reunion ten years after graduating. How did this changing timeline affect your perceptions of Amb and Sully? How did this structure build suspense?
3. Amb describes how she and her best friend from home, Billie, had a “meager defense against the mean girls” at their school, how they “studied them, then peeled them like overripe fruit in marathon gossip sessions to lessen the sting of not being invited to their parties.” How does Amb’s experience with “mean girls” before college affect her attitude toward making new friends? Have you had any experiences with cliques or gossiping among peers?
4. After meeting Flora, Amb thinks to herself, “being nice was as naïve as being trustworthy, which had gotten me nowhere. Flora must have known the power she was giving people to hurt her. There was a danger in being too soft in a world that required a protective coating.” Consider how “niceness” is portrayed in the novel. Is being nice a dangerous quality? What does it mean to be a “nice girl”?
5. Reunions–family, school or otherwise–can be a nostalgic time to reconnect but can also resurface memories or past selves. Discuss reunions you’ve attended and what your favorite and least favorite parts of the experience were.
6. “People thought girls’ bodies were our deadliest weapons. They had no idea about the mountains our imaginations could move.” (112) Later, words are described as the weapon that killed Flora. What other “weapons” are there in the novel and who wields them against whom, and why?
7. The friendships detailed throughout the novel are predominantly between women. How would the story have changed if the characters had platonic male relationships? How do the gender differences among your friends shape your friendships?
8. On first meeting Flora, Amb is “prickled” by how Flora “knew how to be herself–it seemed like everyone did. I only knew how to imitate other people.” Later, Sully criticizes nice girls, saying, “it’s all a performance . . . they act sweet, then talk behind your back.” What is the significance of imitation and acting for Amb? Who else in the novel is performing, on or offstage? Have you ever found yourself imitating others or performing for friends?
9. Kevin is characterized as the novel’s villain; is this a fair assessment? Discuss why or why not. Who do you think is the villain?
10. For many, freshman year is the first time young people experience living away from family expectations and setting your own rules. Did you experience this, either in a college setting or moving away from home? How did it feel to be on your own?
11. The descriptions of intimate exchanges between male and female students in the novel are rarely affectionate, and some are even animalistic: Amb characterizes sleeping with a stranger as “a ritual necessary to purge the memory of Matt’s betrayal,” while, later, boys are described as “[surrounding] us, in packs, former sports kings with predatory eyes.” In daring Amb to seduce another student, Sully says she wants to “prove he’s the same animal as the rest of them,” after which Amb describes her actions as “the slaughter.” How does this language affect your perception of their romantic and sexual interplay? For the women in the novel, is this approach empowering or limiting?
12. “It would be years before I realized that girls weren’t supposed to own their ambition, just lease it from time to time when it didn’t offend anyone else.” Do you believe this statement is true? What are the characters ambitious for, and is there a difference between ambition and competition?
13. Consider this statement from Amb: “That’s what it came down to. Three girls, each with something another wanted. I was the snake that swallowed Flora, and Sully unhinged her jaw to swallow me. Maybe everything would have ended differently if we had talked, but we didn’t exist in a world where our envy was allowed to have a voice.” Do you think talking would have saved Flora, Amb, and Sully from one another? Could anything have saved them?
14. Amb is drawn to Sully talking about “guys like they were toys” while noting “her favorite playthings were the girls.” Was Sully ever Amb’s friend, or do you think she was playing Amb all along? How would the novel have changed if it were told from Sully’s point of view? Could the same statement be said of Amb’s approach to relationships?
15. Amb and Sully end the novel in drastically different situations. Do you believe they deserved their conclusions?
Enhance Your Book Club (3-5 Enhance Your Book Club Suggestions)
1. Ask if anyone in your reading group has had experience with calligraphy. Watch a tutorial video or explore DIY instructions for beginner calligraphy and customize handwritten invitations for your gathering, or send handwritten letters to members of your reading group. (Best to leave any threatening tones to the pages of the novel, though!)
2. Look up a campus map of Wesleyan University and trace the characters’ most visited locales.
3. Discuss how Flora’s emotional state deteriorated and how to look for signs of depression and emotional instability; how can you talk to your friends if you’re worried something is wrong? Explore the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services website for Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and check out this guide for starting conversations about mental health: https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/tay-conversation-starters.pdf
4. Check out Project Gutenberg online and read some of John Donne’s poetry. Discuss whether anyone in your group has studied John Donne previously, or how the poems speak to you.
5. Give yourself a black and cardinal manicure—Wesleyan school colors!
A Conversation with Laurie Elizabeth Flynn
Q: Congratulations on publishing The Girls Are All So Nice Here! Could you describe the inspiration for the plot and characters? Did you know any real-life girls like Amb and Sully?
A: Thank you! I’m very drawn to dynamics between female friend groups and the ways in which girls can scratch each other’s darkest impulses, and I was inspired by the societal tendency to label girls as nice or mean. I wanted to write a story from the perspective of the bully, rather than the bullied, and to put readers inside the head of a girl under the influence of a dangerously charismatic friend. I haven’t known anyone as extreme as Sully, but I’ve definitely known people like her, ones who are harsh and magnetic in equal measure. Girls like Amb are even more prevalent—in search of validation and acceptance, and seeking approval from the wrong people, sometimes replicating the cruelty of a leader to avoid being cast out themselves. I think most of us have been in, or on the fringe, of situations like this, with insecurity as a driving force.
Q: The novel is set at Wesleyan University, and the campus environment sets the stage for dramatic events. Did you attend Wesleyan yourself? What inspired the college reunion storyline?
A: I didn’t attend Wesleyan myself, but I knew I wanted to set this novel on a campus that had a liberal arts vibe and also felt tight knit. The college I went to was larger and more anonymous, and what I wanted for The Girls Are All So Nice Here was a more insular setting where rumors traveled fast and friend groups could easily overlap. I thought that a reunion would provide such an interesting framework, as the setting and cast of characters would remain largely the same, and readers would get to see exactly how the characters have changed since their college days—and how they’ve stayed the same. I wanted to play with the idea of being summoned back to campus for a reason, and a threat too dangerous to ignore.
Q: Although you’ve previously published for a YA audience (readers, go check out Firsts, Last Girl Lied To, and All Eyes on Her!), The Girls Are All So Nice Here is your first novel written for adults. What was it like writing for an older audience?
A: Writing for an adult audience meant there was much more room for retrospection, and the ability to see a character in two stages of her life: as an eighteen-year-old college freshman, and again as a married woman in her early thirties with a career. My YA novels are very immediate in tone, with characters in the moment, rarely looking back on things they’ve done or the consequences of their actions.
Chapters
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041 TheGirlsAreAllSoNiceHere Chapter39 Now
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042 TheGirlsAreAllSoNiceHere Chapter40 OneYearLater
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043 TheGirlsAreAllSoNiceHere CLOSE
Duration: 41s