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Adam McKay is a film director, writer, and host of the podcast Death at the Wing.“Sometimes you do a project and then you look back and you’re like, Ah, shit. I let some of myself get in the way of that. It sucks, but it’s also a part of it. And there are so many times where you’re excited that the story did take off, the wind did catch the sail and it went off on its own. And that just feels so good that it far outweighs the times when you make a mistake, or let something go wrong, or too long, or hit the wrong tone. Which is going to happen. There’s no way around it. But those times when it all just catches perfectly—it’s just so exciting that you keep doing it.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @GhostPanther 00:00 Anchorman (Dreamworks • 2004) 00:00 Stepbrothers (Columbia Pictures • 2008) 00:00 The Big Short (Paramount Pictures, New Regency Productions • 2015) 00:00 Vice (Annapurna Pictures • 2018) 00:00 Succession (Gary Sanchez Productions • 2018) 00:00 Death at the Wi

Anna Sale is the host of Death, Sex & Money. Her new book is Let’s Talk About Hard Things.“What hard conversations can do is—you can witness what's hard. You can be with what's hard. Admit what's hard. That can be its own relief. … Some hard conversations … are successful when they end in a place that's like, Oh, we're not going to agree on this. … I think you can get used to the feeling of feeling out of control and that makes them less scary.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @annasale annasale.com Sale on Longform Podcast 07:00 Let’s Talk About Hard Things (Simon & Schuster • 2021) 10:00 Sale's Death, Sex & Money archive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brooke Jarvis is a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine.“Obsession is inherently interesting. We want to know why somebody would care so much about something that it could direct their whole life. ... When people care about something a lot, what can be more interesting than that to understand what drives those powerful emotions? ... Part of why I do this work is that I am able to get temporarily obsessed with a lot of different things and then move on to the next thing that I'm temporarily obsessed with. ... There's always a new question that I want to follow.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @brookejarvis brookejarvis.net Jarvis on Longform 02:00 "Maryville native Brooke Jarvis wins Livingston Ward for young journalists" (Amy Beth Miller • The Daily Times • Jun 2017) 05:00 The New Kings of Nonfiction (Ira Glass • Riverhead Books • 2007) 06:00 "The Squirrel Wars" (D.T. Max • New York Times Magazine • Oct 2007) 08:00 "When We Are Called to Part" (The Atavist

Michael Grabell and Bernice Yeung are investigative reporters at ProPublica. They won the George Polk Award for Health Reporting for their coverage of the meatpacking industry's response to the pandemic, including their feature "The Battle for Waterloo." This is the final part of our week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Roberto Ferdman is a correspondent at VICE News. He and his colleagues at VICE News Tonight won the George Polk Award for Television Reporting for their coverage of the killing of Breonna Taylor and the investigations that followed. This is part four in a week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Helen Branswell is an infectious disease and global health reporter for STAT. She won this year's George Polk Award for Public Service for her coverage of the pandemic. This is the third in a week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ryan Mac and Craig Silverman are reporters at BuzzFeed News. Together they won this year's George Polk Award for Business Reporting for their coverage of Facebook's handling of disinformation on its platform.  This is the second in a week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tristan Ahtone is the former Indigenous Affairs editor at High Country News and is currently the editor-in-chief at The Texas Observer. His High Country News article “Land-Grab Universities,” co-authored with Robert Lee, won the 2021 George Polk Award for Education Reporting. This is the first in a week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dana Goodyear is a staff writer for The New Yorker and host of the new podcast Lost Hills.“I do find people who take risks—artistic and physical or even intellectual risks—really interesting. ... There are so many people that I have written about who take a really long time with their projects, whether years or decades, and they might or might not work out. ... They just don't go along with what's received, and they—at a great personal cost—often do things that are very different. And then those things are the things in our world that are the most fascinating or feel the most human.” Thanks to Mailchimp and CaseFleet for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @danagoodyear danagoodyear.com Goodyear on Longform Goodyear's New Yorker archive 01:00 Lost Hills (Western Sound and Pushkin Industries • 2021) 32:00 "An Artist’s Life, Refracted in Film" (New Yorker • Jan 2019) 42:00 "The Gardener" (New Yorker • Aug 2003) 49:00 "The Scavenger" (New Yorker • Nov 2009) 49:00 "A Photographer at the Ends of the Eart

Albert Samaha is an investigative journalist and the deputy inequality editor at BuzzFeed News. His book Concepcion: An Immigrant Family's Fortunes comes out in October.“I don’t think any child of the recession will ever not feel precarious. And being in journalism makes that even more so. ... At this point I’ve embraced the precarity of working in this industry. I’m sure at some point it’s going to be grating for people to hear me talk about how precarious and insecure I feel. … But I’ve got too many friends who are way too talented, who can’t use that talent in the ways that they are passionate about, for me to ever feel like my place in this industry is fully cemented.” Thanks to Mailchimp and CaseFleet for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @AlbertSamaha albertsamaha.com Samaha on Longform Samaha's BuzzFeed archive 11:00 Never Ran, Never Will Boyhood and Football in a Changing American Inner City (PublicAffairs • 2018) 17:00 "The Tragedy of Louis Scarcella" (Village Voice • Aug 2014) 23:00 "A B

Bonnie Tsui is a journalist and the author of Why We Swim.“I am a self-motivated person. I really don’t like being told what to do. I’ve thought about this many times over the last 16 years that I’ve been a full-time freelancer... even though I thought my dream was to always and forever be living in New York, working in publishing, working at a magazine, being an editor, writing. When I was an editor, I kind of hated it. I just didn’t like being chained to a desk.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @bonnietsui bonnietsui.com 02:00 Why We Swim (Algonquin • 2020) 03:30 American Chinatown: A People's History of Five Neighborhoods (Tsui • Free Press • 2009) 10:30 The Deep (2012) 28:00 "With His Absence, My Artist Father Taught Me the Art of Vanishing" (Catapult • Feb 2019) 41:30 "After Fires, Napa and Sonoma Tourism Industry Is Getting Back on Its Feet" (New York Times • Oct 2017) 44:30 "Child Care: What — and Who — It Takes to Raise a Family" (California Sunday • July 2019) 49

Jessica Lessin is founder and editor-in-chief of The Information.“It's very, very hard to predict the winners. A lot of investors try to do this. And I think sometimes where the press gets in trouble is trying to make a call.… It's not always our job to say this thing is doomed or not. I think many journalists, unfortunately, are more interested in that than in understanding, What is this company trying to do?” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes:  @Jessicalessin theinformation.com Lessin's archive at The Information 11:00 "Android’s Andy Rubin Left Google After Inquiry Found Inappropriate Relationship" (Reed Albergotti • The Information • Nov 2017) 11:00 "Silicon Valley Women Tell of VC’s Unwanted Advances" (Reed Albergotti • The Information • Jun 2017) 23:00 Paul Steiger at ProPublica 23:00 Kevin Delaney at Quartz 26:00 "Facebook Hit by FTC Antitrust Suit That Seeks to Break Off Instagram, WhatsApp" (Christopher Stern • The Information • Dec 2020) 31:00 "People are leaving S

Elon Green is a journalist whose work has appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Awl, New York, and other publications. His new book is Last Call: A True Story of Love, Lust, and Murder in Queer New York.“The murders and the murderer should not be the driver. It should simply be the catalyst for the other story. And the other story is the victims. And the other story is the political backdrop and the environment that they are walking through.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @elongreen elongreen.com Green on Longform 00:00 Last Call: A True Story of Love, Lust, and Murder in Queer New York (Celadon Books • 2021) 03:00 @DavidGrann 05:00 davidyaffe.com 07:00 Pamela Colloff on Longform 10:00 The Advocate 13:00 "The Enduring, Pernicious Whiteness of True Crime" (The Appeal • Aug 2020) 13:00 Killers of the Flower Moon (David Grann • Doubleday Books • 2017) 13:00 Missing & Murdered (CBC News) 13:00 Connie Walker on the Longform Podcast 19:00 "These Gay Men Frequented Manh

Jess Zimmerman is editor-in-chief of Electric Literature. Her new book is Women and Other Monsters.“My goals are to be exactly as vulnerable as I feel is necessary. And not that’s necessary to me—that's necessary to the observer, to the reader. If [my story] is out there, it's out there because in order to make the larger point that I wanted to make … I had to give this level of access. It does kind of feel more strategic than cathartic.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @j_zimms jesszimmerman.com Zimmerman's Electric Literature archive 01:00 Women and Other Monsters (Beacon Press • 2021) 03:00 "Hunger Makes Me" (Hazlitt • Jul 2016) 04:00 Charybdis (theoi.com) 05:00 Mary Roach's website 08:00 The Furies (theoi.com) 11:00 Lindy West's website 12:00 "We Can’t Believe Survivors’ Stories If We Never Hear Them" (Rachel Zarrow • Electric Literature • Mar 2021) 16:00 "Why Are Portholes Being Used on Cows?" (BBC News • Jun 2019) 22:00 Longform Podcast #193: Robin Marantz Henig 24:

Tejal Rao is the California restaurant critic for The New York Times and a columnist for The New York Times Magazine.“I've been thinking a lot about what makes a restaurant good…. Can a restaurant be good if it doesn't have wheelchair access? Can a restaurant be good if the farmers picking the tomatoes are getting sick? How much do we consider when we talk about if a restaurant is good or not? … If people are being exploited at every single point possible along the way, how good is the restaurant, really? … I worry that the pandemic has illuminated all of these issues and things are just going to keep going the way that they were.... That's what I worry about. That nothing will change.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @tejalrao tejalrao.com Rao's New York Times archive 01:00 "Is My Takeout Risking Lives or Saving Restaurants?" (New York Times • Apr 2020) 03:00 Rao's Atlantic archive 09:00 Rao's Saveur archive 13:00 "For Best Results, Eat This Roti Immediately" (New York T

Connie Walker is an investigative reporter and podcast host. Her new show is Stolen: The Search for Jermain.“For so long, there has been this kind of history of journalists coming in and taking stories from Indigenous communities. And that kind of extractive, transactional kind of journalism that really causes a lot of harm. And so much of our work is trying to undo and address that. There is a way to be a storyteller and help amplify and give people agency in their stories.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @connie_walker Walker's CBC News archive 00:00 Missing & Murdered (CBC News) 04:00 "The Injustice to Pamela George Continues Long After Her Murder" (Heather Mallick • Toronto Star • Jan 2020) 08:00 Street Cents (CBC) 12:00 "Alicia Ross: Everyone’s Daughter" (Catherine McDonald • Global News • Apr 2020) 14:00 Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada 19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 1: "Indigenous in the City" (CBC • 2012) 19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 2: "It’s Time" (CBC • 2012) 19:00 8

Vinson Cunningham is a staff writer for The New Yorker.“I think the job is just paying a bunch of attention. If you're a person like me, where thoughts and worries are intruding on your consciousness all the time, it is a great relief to have something to just over-describe and over-pay-attention to—and kind of just give all of your latent, usually anxious attention to this one thing. That, to me, is a great joy.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @vcunningham vinson.nyc Cunningham on Longform Cunningham's New Yorker archive 04:00 "’The Suit’ at BAM" (Brooklyn Paper • Jan 2013) 04:00 "Label Maker: Edward Buchanan" (Nylon Guys • Mar 2015) 09:00 circlejerk.live 11:00 Jeremy O. Harris’ plays 11:00 "How Are Audiences Adapting to the Age of Virtual Theatre?" (New Yorker • Oct 2020) 18:00 "The Season of Russell Westbrook and a New Era in N.B.A. Fandom" (New Yorker • Apr 2017) 25:00 Cunningham's McSweeney’s archive 25:00 "The Flies in Kehinde Wiley’s Milk" (The Awl • Jun 2015) 25:

Katie Engelhart is a journalist and the author of the new book The Inevitable: Dispatches on the Right to Die.“Billions of dollars of government money goes to the nursing home industry every year. And nobody has a nursing home correspondent. Nobody has an assisted living correspondent…. That's wild to me. As a journalist, someone tells me, Oh, there's an industry. It's hugely underregulated. It's getting billions of dollars a year. It is not super-accountable for that money. Who wouldn't want to cover that?” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @katieenglehart katieengelhart.com Engelhart on Longform 00:00 The Inevitable: Dispatches on the Right to Die (St. Martin’s Press • 2021) 00:00 "What Happened in Room 10?" (California Sunday • Aug 2020) 02:00 "Her Time" (California Sunday • Mar 2019) 03:00 "Time to Die" (Vice) 18:00 "Adam Maier-Clayton's controversial right-to-die campaign" (Stuart Hughes • BBC News • Jul 2017) 34:00 Engehart's Maclean’s archive 35:00 "Papal Chatter in

Luke Mogelson is a journalist and fiction writer whose work has appeared in The New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, and other publications. His latest feature is ”Among the Insurrectionists.”“Get to the front and document as much as you can. ... I think my approach is much more similar to photographers than other writers. I spend a lot of time with photographers and ... I feel like I've gotten pretty good at getting myself into situations where there's few or maybe no other writers around, but there's always a bunch of photographers…. I try to get in right behind the first photographers.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: 06:00 Paul Ford on Longform Podcast 07:00 "Death of a Mountain" (Erik Reece • Harper’s • Apr 2005) [pdf] 11:00 "Prison break: How Michigan Managed to Empty Its Penitentiaries While Lowering Its Crime Rate" (Washington Monthly • 2010) 16:00 "A Beast in the Heart of Every Fighting Man" (New York Times Magazine • Apr 2011) 26:00 Mujib Mashal's New York T

Mirin Fader is a staff writer for The Ringer. “Nobody ever makes it makes it, right? You make it, and every day, you have to keep making it. That’s how I feel. Would I be the reporter I am if I wasn’t like that? I’m afraid to see what happens if I’m not. I’m afraid what type of reporter or writer I’ll be if I take my foot off the gas.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @MirinFader mirinfader.com Fader on Longform 03:00 Fader's Orange County Register archive 04:00 Lee Jenkins’ Sports Illustrated archive 04:00 Longform Podcast #421: Wright Thompson 06:00 Fader's Bleacher Report archive 14:00 "How Mo’ne Davis Made Her Hoop Dreams Come True: Inside Life After Little League" (Bleacher Report • Feb 2017) 14:00 "The LaMelo Show" (Bleacher Report • Feb 2018) 17:00 "Walk-on Becomes X-factor For Titans' Men's Soccer" (OC Register • Nov 2016) 29:00 "What Tyler Skaggs Left Behind" (Bleacher Report • Sept 2020) 42:00 Gary Smith on Longform 47:00 "LaVar Ball: Lakers 'don't want to play